Jul 28, 2026 Workshop

[1.A Health District Annual Update]

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DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE A LOCAL OFFICES IN ROUND ROCK, CEDAR PARK AND TAYLOR, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN OFFICE. OUR OFFICE SERVES FIVE DAYS A WEEK AT THE CARVER CENTER, AND THEN OUR NAVIGATION PROGRAM IS ONE DAY A WEEK OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE LOOKING IN THE NEXT YEAR TO BE OUT THERE MORE PERMANENTLY. WE ALSO GO OUT ONE DAY A WEEK TO LIBERTY HILL FOR OUR WICK DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE ALSO ARE JUST NOW GETTING APPROVAL AND STARTED TO GET A MOBILE UNIT, WHICH WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO BE OUT IN NEEDED AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN GEORGETOWN, THAT DOESN'T HAVE A PERMANENT CLINICAL PROGRAM OUT HERE. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SCREENINGS, IMMUNIZATIONS, AND MORE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, A LITTLE BIT MORE MOBILE, BE ABLE TO GET OUT TO AREAS THAT HAVE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IN A MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE WAY. THAT RFP FOR THAT MOBILE UNIT SHOULD GO OUT IN THE NEXT MONTH. SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. WE'RE ALSO AN ACCREDITED AGENCY, SO WE MEET NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR HEALTH DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. FOR OUR FUNDING. WE USE A DIVERSE FUNDING MODEL TO SUPPORT PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES ACROSS THE COUNTY. OUR FUNDING COMES FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY, SEVEN MEMBER CITIES, STATE GRANTS, ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH AND PROGRAM FEES, INSURANCE CLAIMS, INVESTMENT INCOME AND RESERVE FUNDS WHEN APPROPRIATE. GEORGETOWN'S CONTRIBUTION COMES FROM OOPS, SORRY, JUST LOST MY NOTES. HOLD ON. SORRY IS BASED ON POPULATION AT A CURRENT RATE OF $2.35 PER RESIDENT, AND WE MAXIMIZE EVERY DOLLAR WE RECEIVE AND ARE PURSUING GRANTS ACTIVELY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES AND ARE SUPPORTING INNOVATION AND APPLYING EVERY NEEDED SERVICE AND AND GETTING NEEDED SERVICES OUT TO GEORGETOWN RESIDENTS IN ALL OF RESIDENTS IN IN THE COUNTY THIS YEAR, WE ALSO OR THIS PAST YEAR, WE ALSO WENT THROUGH A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. SO THIS PAST FALL, WE BROUGHT TOGETHER OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS TO UPDATE OUR MISSION AND VISION. AND THESE STATEMENTS HADN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2017. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THESE REFLECTED OUR CURRENT DIRECTION AND EMPHASIZE THE COLLABORATION AS NEARLY EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN PUBLIC HEALTH REALLY EMPHASIZES STRONG PARTNERSHIPS. AND STRONG COMMUNICATION, ESPECIALLY DURING EMERGENCIES, AND THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON INNOVATION AS PUBLIC HEALTH ISN'T WHAT WE NEEDED TEN YEARS AGO. AND PUBLIC HEALTH NEEDS TO LOOK FORWARD BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED IN TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT WE WANT TEN YEARS FROM NOW IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. WE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR VALUE STATEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VALUES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR STAFF ARE OUR TRUE REPRESENTATIONS OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING. SO THESE ARE THE THE VALUES THAT OUR STAFF PRESENTED TO OUR BOARD AND OUR BOARD APPROVED, AND THAT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM OUR STAFF ANY TIME THAT YOU INTERACT WITH US. OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ACTUALLY COMES OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, I BELIEVE. SO YOU SHOULD SEE THAT HERE SHORTLY. BUT THESE ARE OUR THREE PRIORITY AREAS THAT YOU WILL SEE. THE FIRST ONE IS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND CAPACITY. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR STAFF ARE WELL TRAINED AS WE CAN'T OFFER OUR SERVICES UNLESS WE HAVE A TRAINED STAFF. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BECOMING GOOD HEALTH COMMUNICATORS AND GOOD PARTNERS. SO MAKING SURE THAT OUR

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THIS IS OUR WOMEN, INFANT AND CHILDREN NUTRITION PROGRAM. THIS IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM THAT WE RECEIVE FUNDING FOR. THIS IS MOMS, INFANTS AND YOUNG CHILDREN THAT WE PROVIDE NOT ONLY NUTRITIONAL SUPPORT BUT ALSO EDUCATION ON NUTRITION. AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN INCREASING A LOT OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO. AND OUR SITE AT THE CARVER CENTER HAS ACTUALLY SEEN A 21% INCREASE AND HAS SEEN THE HIGHEST INCREASE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OVER ALL OF OUR SITES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TO MAKE NOTE OF IS IN WICK STARTING THIS MONTH STARTED UICC. AND UICC IS AN ELECTRONIC WICK SERVICE. SO NO LONGER DO EVERY WICK CLIENT HAVE TO COME IN AND UPDATE THEIR WICK CARD. THEY CAN DO IT ELECTRONICALLY, WHICH DOES REDUCE SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION BARRIERS. SO WE WILL LIKELY SEE WICK SERVICES INCREASE AS A LOT OF PATIENT OR A LOT OF CLIENTS DON'T COME BACK TO UPDATE THEIR WICK CARD BECAUSE OF THAT BARRIER, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME IN, BUT ONCE EVERY QUARTER NOW, INSTEAD OF ONCE EVERY MONTH. WE DO A LOT FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE. THIS INCLUDES OUR MEDICAL RESERVE CORPS, OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TEAM, AND OUR EPIDEMIOLOGISTS WITH OUR DISEASE REPORTING. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, OUR DISEASE REPORTS HAVE GONE UP AS WELL. THIS IS BECAUSE NOT JUST BECAUSE OF GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF VACCINE PREVENTABLE DISEASES, HEALTH CARE ACQUIRED AND HEALTH CARE ACQUIRED INFECTIONS AND OUTBREAKS LIKE CYCLOSPORA. WE DO HAVE SOME CYCLOSPORA CASES IN THE COUNTY. WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY AS OTHERS IN THE COUNTRY, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE LINKED TO THE NATIONAL OUTBREAK, AND NONE THAT HAVE BEEN LINKED TO ANY OF THE POINTS, SOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. BUT ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS. JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE RIGHT NOW FOR OTHER EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES, WE ARE VERY GOOD PARTNERS WITH Y'ALL'S EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TEAM. WE ACTUALLY JUST PARTNERED WITH THEM IN OUR MEETING RECENTLY TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN GEORGETOWN, BUT ALSO IN THE COUNTY FOR HEALTH CARE AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, BOTH FIRE, EMS, ETC. KNOW HOW TO HANDLE AN EBOLA PATIENT SHOULD ANYONE BECOME POSITIVE. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AND WAS A BIG ACTIVITY FOR US IN JUNE. AND OUR MEDICAL RESERVE CORPS WAS A BIG PARTNER DURING THE FLOODS OF LAST YEAR. OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TEAM IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY NOTICEABLE IN THE COUNTY. SO IF YOU EAT AT A RESTAURANT, YOU'VE INTERACTED WITH THEM AS THEY INSPECT ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS IN THE COUNTY. LAST YEAR IN GEORGETOWN, THEY PERMITTED 779 BUSINESSES AND INSPECTED 668 OF THEM. AND THOSE INSPECTIONS COULD BE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES OR BUSINESSES HAVING MULTIPLE INSPECTIONS IF THEY HAD COMPLAINTS. AND WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THOSE BUSINESSES, AND I'LL GET TO THE MOBILE INSPECTION CHANGE IN A MOMENT. BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MOSQUITOES FOR A MOMENT. WE ALSO DO MOSQUITO SURVEILLANCE. SO IF, AS YOU HEAR ABOUT WEST NILE POSITIVE MOSQUITO POOLS, THAT'S OUR

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SO JUST AS A HEADS UP, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE, ESPECIALLY IN THE EARLY MORNING AND, AND AT NIGHT WHERE MOSQUITO REPELLENTS, THAT'S THE BIGGEST WAY TO PREVENT WEST NILE. AND IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. SO THIS MONTH THERE WAS A BIG MOBILE FOOD VENDING LAW CHANGE.

AND THIS WAS. SO INSTEAD OF THE MOBILE FOOD VENDORS GETTING A LOCAL PERMIT, THERE'S NOW A STATEWIDE PERMIT. WE ARE PARTNERS WITH DSHS. SO WE ARE ABLE TO DO LOCAL INSPECTIONS.

AND I WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT AS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NOT ALL LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENTS HAVE. AND WE MADE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FOR WILLIAMSON COUNTY, SO THAT IF THERE ARE ANY COMPLAINTS, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT INSPECTION HERE LOCALLY. SO WE STILL HAVE THAT. WE STILL MAINTAIN THAT WE ARE STILL DOING THE PERMITTING FOR THEM. THEY JUST ASSIGN WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO INSTEAD OF US KNOW WHERE, WE'RE KNOWING WHERE WE'RE GOING, THEY JUST TELL US WHERE TO GO. AND THEN YOU ALL STILL MAINTAIN KIND OF THE ZONING AND ZONING RULES YOURSELVES. WE ALSO THEN HAVE A NAVIGATION PROGRAM. THEY MAINTAIN THE WILCO CARE. SO THIS IS THE INDIGENT CARE PROGRAM FOR THE COUNTY. AND THEY HAD 358 APPLICANTS LAST YEAR. 42 OF THEM WERE FROM GEORGETOWN. THEY ALSO HAVE A BREAST CANCER, COLON CANCER AND PROSTATE CANCER SCREENING PROGRAM. I DO NOT HAVE NUMBERS SPECIFICALLY FOR GEORGETOWN, BUT IF YOU WANT THEM, I CAN GET THEM FOR YOU. WE ALSO HAVE A NEW BENEFITS ENROLLMENT PROGRAM, SO WE CAN NOW NOT ONLY ENROLL PEOPLE IN WILCO CARE, BUT WE CAN ALSO ENROLL THEM IN MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND SNAP. SO THAT WAS A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE ADDED ON AND IS THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO BE MORE PERMANENTLY AT THE CARVER CENTER BECAUSE OF. THAT'S HOW WE'VE HAD MORE INTEREST IN THIS NAVIGATION PROGRAM. WE ALSO DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS EDUCATION, SIGNING PEOPLE UP FOR BENEFITS, NAVIGATING THEM THROUGH DIFFERENT PROCESSES, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF SERVICES, DOING FIELD IMMUNIZATIONS IN THE, IN THE. MOBLEY. LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE DO OUTREACH. AND WE DID 16 OF THOSE EVENTS IN GEORGETOWN LAST YEAR. OUR OUTREACH HAS INCREASED OVER THE LAST YEAR. SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE NUMBERS START INCREASING AS WE WANT TO BE MORE AND MORE PUBLIC AND MORE AND MORE MOBILE IS ONE OF OUR GOALS MOVING FORWARD. ON TOP OF ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS, WE ARE ALSO THE AGENCY THAT COLLABORATES OR RUNS THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY COALITION. SO OVER 100 ORGANIZATIONS GET BROUGHT TOGETHER FOR THIS COALITION. AND SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN SCAN THAT QR CODE AND BE GET JUST GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE COALITION OR YOU CAN JOIN THE COALITION. WE HAVE THREE ACTIVE ACTION GROUPS. THESE ACTION GROUPS ACTUALLY JUST MET, SO THEY WON'T MEET AGAIN FOR ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO. BUT THEY ARE THE ONES THAT RUN THE COUNTY HEALTH IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND SO THESE ORGANIZATIONS GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE THESE ARE OUR TOP PRIORITIES, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET THESE PRIORITIES TAKEN CARE OF. AND THE PRIORITIES ARE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, CHRONIC DISEASE PREVENTION, AND THEY'RE MORE FOCUSED ON FOOD AND THE LINK TO CHRONIC DISEASE RIGHT NOW, AND MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORD GETS OUT ABOUT WHAT PUBLIC HEALTH IS. AND WE HAVE A PODCAST TO DO THAT NOW. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OUR PODCAST, IT'S CALLED PUBLIC HEALTH IS WE ARE ON SPOTIFY, APPLE, AND NOW WE ARE OFFICIALLY ON YOUTUBE AS WELL. IT IS JUST VOICE ONLY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A SEASON TWO. SO THAT WILL BE VIDEO. WE HAVE ALSO STARTED A SMALL, WELL, A SHORTER VERSION, WHICH IS CALLED PUBLIC HEALTH IS IN THE NEWS. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE NEWS LIKE A MOBILE HEALTH MOBILE LAW CHANGE OR CYCLOSPORA, WE'RE DOING A TEN, 15 MINUTE MOBILE OR A PODCAST THAT GIVES INFORMATION WHAT THE FACTS ARE SO PEOPLE CAN GO AND GET FACTUAL INFORMATION QUICKLY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY TRUE IN THE NEWS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE

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SO IF THE INFANT OR CHILDREN CHILD IS A RESIDENT, A CITIZEN, BUT THE PARENTS ARE NOT. HOW IS THAT HANDLED? BECAUSE IT'S WOMEN, INFANTS AND CHILDREN. SO YOU'RE HELPING ALL OF THOSE.

BUT ONLY PART OF THEM ARE CITIZENS. HOW DOES THAT WORK? YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT ELIGIBILITY. I'M NOT UP TO DATE ON WHAT THE SPECIFIC RULES ARE ON THE MOMS AND THEN THE CHILDREN BEING A RESIDENT OR CITIZEN. AND I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. JUST WANTED TO ASK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. SEEMS WE RECEIVED THIS PRESENTATION EVERY YEAR. AND I KNOW YOU'RE NEW TO THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THE ABILITY TO HAVE SO MANY PARTNERSHIP SERVICES AT THE CARVER CENTER HAS REALLY BEEN A BENEFIT TO YOU ALL. IS THAT. YES, VERY MUCH SO, YES. AND IT HAS ALLOWED YOU TO EXPAND, IT SEEMS SERVICES. WHAT IS THE REASON WHY YOU THINK THAT THAT'S WORKING SO WELL? AND WHAT ELSE? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE ADDED THERE OR IMPROVED TO, TO HELP THAT? BECAUSE I REALLY I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP SERVICES AT CARVER, AND I THINK THE LOCATION WORKS REALLY WELL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WHAT ELSE COULD WE BE DOING TO MAKE THAT EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL? I CAN DEFINITELY GET MORE INFORMATION FROM MY STAFF THAT ARE OUT THERE MORE THAN I AM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT'S A FABULOUS LOCATION, AND THE PARTNERS THAT ARE OUT THERE REALLY WORK TOGETHER REALLY WELL. I KNOW THAT THEY REFER PEOPLE TO EACH OTHER REALLY WELL. WHENEVER WE HAVE HAD EVENTS OUT THERE, OTHER PARTNERS PASS OUT FLIERS FOR US AND WE PASS OUT FLIERS FOR THEM. SO THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE OUT THERE REALLY WORK WELL TOGETHER. AND I KNOW THAT THE FOLKS THAT RUN IT ARE FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC PEOPLE. AND SO ANYTIME WE NEED ANYTHING, THEY'RE JUST WHATEVER YOU NEED, LET'S HELP EACH OTHER. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT WOULD IMPROVE THINGS, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY ASK THE STAFF AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. OKAY, THAT'D BE GREAT. I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT IT'S WORKING WELL AND, YOU KNOW, WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE TO GROW. OUR STAFF ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THE MOBILE VENDOR. FOOD VENDOR CHANGE FROM THE STATE. HAS THAT BEEN WELL RECEIVED FROM THE MOBILE FOOD VENDOR FOLKS OR HAS IT BEEN COMPLICATED. DIFFICULT PROCESS. WE IT IS A NEW PROCESS. IT'S NEW. AS NEW PROCESSES HAPPEN, THERE ARE ALWAYS HICCUPS. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE THE APPLICATION PROCESS WITH THE STATE. SO AS THEY COME TO US, WE HELP. WE HELP THEM WITH THAT APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN OURS. WE'VE HAD ONE ONE HICCUP. IT WAS OUR FIRST FIRST INSPECTION THAT WE DID, AND WE HAD JUST A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY FAILURES. BUT SINCE THAT ONE, THINGS HAVE GONE SMOOTHLY. AND SO THE STATE HAS THE LOCAL AUTHORITY ADMINISTER THE THE PERMITS. SO DO WE THE FEE GOES TO THE STATE OR ARE WE ABLE AS A LOCAL AUTHORITY THAT'S THAT'S ADMINISTERING. WE GET A CUT OF THE FEE TO TO HELP RECOVER OUR COSTS AS WELL. WE HAVE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THEM. SO WE HAVE A SET COST FOR EVERY INSPECTION. WE BASICALLY SEND THEM A BILL. OKAY. YEP. OKAY. AND YOU'RE MENTIONING THE WHATEVER THE STOMACH BUG FROM LETTUCE OR WHATEVER IT IS. CYCLOSPORA. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALL IT WHAT IT WAS CALLED. I JUST KNOW MY WIFE TOLD ME, DON'T EAT ANY LETTUCE TWO WEEKS BEFORE GOING ON VACATION. SO, BUT THE, THE NUMBERS YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE CASES HERE. ARE THOSE SELF-REPORTED REPORTED OR DO THE LOCAL HOSPITALS AND SUCH REPORT TO THE COUNTY WHENEVER THEY HAVE A CASE? YES. SO WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL PHYSICIANS AND

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THERE'S A WHOLE LONG QUESTIONNAIRE THAT THEY GO THROUGH WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT THAT BUG OR BACTERIA OR WHATEVER IT IS. MY UNDERSTANDING, GETTING THE FACTS. I LIKE TO GET MY FACTS OFF OF RANDOM COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S NOT PASSED HUMAN TO HUMAN. IT'S ONLY IF YOU CONSUME SOMETHING THAT IS INFECTED. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. IT IS NOT PASSED HUMAN TO HUMAN. IT IS ONLY BY WHAT YOU EAT. YOU CAN GET IT FROM SWIMMING. BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THIS OUTBREAK IS OCCURRING RIGHT NOW. TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE, BECAUSE IT IS IT'S LIKE WHAT WE CALL HERE CYCLOSPORA SEASON. WE ALWAYS SEE AN INCREASE IN CYCLOSPORA THIS TIME OF YEAR. IT'S USUALLY RELATED TO TRAVEL. AND SO TRAVEL TO OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE MEXICO, SOUTH AMERICAN COUNTRIES. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE. WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IN OUR NUMBERS IS A MIX OF PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T TRAVELED AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE. SO IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T TRAVELED ARE WHAT'S RAISING OUR EYEBROWS GOING, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS? AND WE'RE REALLY ASKING THEM, WHAT HAVE YOU EATEN? WHERE HAVE YOU GOTTEN YOUR VEGETABLES? AND WE'RE PASSING ALONG ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO THE STATE. THEY'RE KIND OF GATHERING ALL OF IT FROM ALL OVER AND PASSING THAT ALONG TO THE CDC. AND THEY'RE COLLECTING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO KIND OF FIND THOSE POINT SOURCES TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT'S GOING. ALL THAT TAKES A LONG TIME. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S KIND OF DELAYS IN IN FIGURING OUT WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. WELL, ONE LAST QUESTION. SO OBVIOUSLY HERE IN GEORGETOWN, WE HAVE BLUE HOLE, BUT THERE'S OTHER AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE NATURAL BODIES OF WATER THAT PEOPLE RECREATE IN THE HEALTH DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHECKING, TESTING THE WATER QUALITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER MONTHS WHERE STANDING WATER STARTS TO GROW DIFFERENT NASTY THINGS THAT CAN BE HARMFUL TO HEALTH, BUT THAT YOU ALL HAVE NO OVERSIGHT OR LEGISLATIVE, I GUESS, AUTHORITY TO TEST WATER OR CHECK QUALITY, OR DO ANY KIND OF REPORTING OR ANYTHING ON THAT. CORRECT? WE DO NOT KNOW. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US THAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU? NO, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME. APPRECIATE YOU

[1.B Woodside In-city MUD Expansion Follow-Up Request]

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT PROPOSAL YET, BUT THAT'S COMING TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THEN YOU'VE GOT THE INTERSECTION OF 195 AND RONALD REAGAN. THE WHITE TRIANGLE THAT'S JUST TO THE

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BUT I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT JUST WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON THERE TODAY. AS WE LOOK FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. WE HAVE CURRENTLY PLANS TO START OUR NEW OVERLOOK AMENITY THIS YEAR IN EXISTING SUN CITY, AND THEN ALSO OUR PAR THREE EXECUTIVE COURSE. WE'RE CALLING THE DEN BY WHITE WING GOLF COURSE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY, SO IN TOTAL, WHEN, WHEN AND IF THOMPSON WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD BRING OUR AMENITY CENTER COUNT TO SIX, WHICH IS WHICH IS EXCITING FOR US, EXCITING FOR ME PERSONALLY, BEING IN LAND DEVELOPMENT AND LAND ENTITLEMENTS TO GET TO DO THESE FUN THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SUN CITY'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN READ, IT'S VIBRANT TODAY, IT'S STRONGER TOMORROW AND IT'S EXCEPTIONAL EVERY DAY. AND WITH THAT, I COULDN'T BE MORE PLEASED TO PASS IT ALONG TO AMY PAYNE AND LET HER TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO MORE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU RYAN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO COME AND AND VISIT WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SLIDES HERE. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT LAND PLAN. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED ON THE PROJECT FROM COUNCIL AND STAFF. AND SO I KIND OF WANTED TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET WITH YOU GUYS. WE ADDED THE TEN ACRE COMMERCIAL TRACT HERE ALONG 195, AND WE REDUCED SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY ACCORDINGLY. WE ADDED A ROUNDABOUT AT THE PRIMARY COMMUNITY ENTRANCE DOWN HERE AT WOODSIDE TRAIL COLLECTOR FOR BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW. WE ADDED THE STREET CONNECTION HERE TO THE NORTH. THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT THAT NICK MENTIONED AS WELL FOR BETTER CONNECTIVITY. AND THEN THE PULTE TEAM HERE INCREASED THE AMENITY CENTER SIZE BY TWO ACRES BECAUSE THEY'RE FOCUSING ON WELLNESS AMENITIES THERE ON THIS TRACK THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE THOMPSON TRACT AS WELL AS OVERALL SUN CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE THE THOMPSON TRACT IS BEING PLANNED AS AN EXTENSION TO TO WOODSIDE, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO COME BACK AND GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY UPDATE ON IT. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE WITH US AS WE WE CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS, BUT SOME OF YOU ARE NEW. SO WE BEGAN. BLAKE MCGEE COMPANY BEGAN WORKING ON THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR WOODSIDE IN 2021. WE BUILT THE OFF SITE WATER LINE ALONG RONALD REAGAN. WE PARTNERED WITH ATMOS TO BRING THE GAS TRANSMISSION LINE ALONG RONALD REAGAN WITH PECK FOR THE ELECTRIC. WE BUILT THE OFF SITE WASTEWATER, AND WE CONSTRUCTED ALL OF THIS IN 2024. AND THEN THE FIRST PHASES OF WOODSIDE WERE DELIVERED IN 2025, AND HOME BUILDING STARTED, AND WE HAD OUR FIRST HOMES FOR SALE IN THE SUMMER OF 2025. SO WE'VE BEEN SELLING A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR, AND WE'VE DELIVERED THE FIRST PHASE ON OUR WEST SIDE, WHICH IS OUR SUN CITY, WHICH IS OUR WOODSIDE SUN CITY WITH OVER 100 LOTS, AND THEN OUR EAST SIDE, WHICH IS OUR TRADITIONAL PRODUCT WITH OVER 100 LOTS AS WELL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS, OBVIOUSLY, SINCE I'M GOING TO GO TO OUR FINANCIAL PAGE HERE, THE MARKET THAT WE'VE BEEN IN FOR THE LAST, YOU KNOW, YEAR AND A HALF THAT WE'VE WE'VE OPENED THIS NEW COMMUNITY HASN'T BEEN THE MOST ROBUST MARKET. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR TRADITIONAL HOMES IN WOODSIDE, WHICH IS LISTED HERE AS WOODSIDE PHASE A VERSUS OUR

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OUT HERE, WE ALSO HAVE WOODSIDE TRAIL COLLECTOR IMPROVEMENTS WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON 195 AND DECELERATION LANES. THOSE TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS AND SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE ABOUT $1 MILLION, AND THEY WOULD BE ACCELERATED WITH THIS THOMPSON PROJECT VERSUS THE WOODSIDE PROJECT, JUST BECAUSE THE MARKET THAT WE'RE IN AND BECAUSE OF THE THE SALES THAT WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE. ALSO IN ADDITION, REGARDING FEES, THIS PROJECT WOULD GENERATE $900,000 IN TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES, $900,000 IN PARKLAND FEES, AND $11 MILLION IN WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES. SO IN ADDITION TO THE SEVEN AND A HALF ACRE AMENITY SITE, I BELIEVE PULTE HAS RYAN WILL TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S 11 MILLION OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 12 MILLION. BUT WE'LL BE PAYING THE $900,000 IN PARKLAND FEES THAT GO TOWARDS THE CITY PARKS AS WELL. AND THEN ONE OTHER ITEM WAS COMMENT WAS RELATED TO POTENTIALLY THE ADDITIONAL USE FOR FIRE AND EMS REGARDING OUR ACTIVE ADULT POPULATION. SO ONE OF THE

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OKAY, OKAY. WE DO THAT IN OUR ETJ MUD. SO WE THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS.

THANK YOU. AND CAN I ASK YOU JUST ONE MORE QUESTION? GO AHEAD. AMANDA. NO. GO AHEAD.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES AND I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP. TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. DO YOU HAVE THE COST OF WHERE Y'ALL ARE NOW. SO 900 000 IS WHAT I HAVE ON THAT. AND, AND CURRENTLY IN YOUR IN YOUR PLAN, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE ARE ANY TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA. IT LOOKS LIKE RONALD REAGAN IMPROVEMENTS ARE RELATED TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY. WE WE VISITED WITH THEM. SO IT WOULD JUST BE OVER AND ABOVE FEES THAT WE'D BE PAYING JUST TO THE CITY FOR JUST GENERAL IN GENERAL. OKAY, THANKS. ON YOUR FINANCIAL SLIDE, THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE, ARE PEOPLE PAYING A $250,000 PREMIUM FOR AGE RESTRICTION, OR ARE WE TALKING DIFFERENTIALS IN THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT THEY'RE BUYING? YEAH, I'LL LET RYAN ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT IT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SUN CITY DEL WEBB NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE AMENITY PACKAGE THAT IT'S TIED TO. OKAY, SO COMPARABLE HOMES JUST AT A PREMIUM. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE MOST APPROPRIATE IS, BUT ON THE COMMERCIAL PIECE, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE COMMERCIAL BUFFERING RESIDENTS FROM 195, BUT DO WE HAVE A VISION FOR C1C2? WHAT WHAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL ARE YOU GUYS ENVISIONING THERE? YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY ON OUR PROJECTS LIKE THIS, THE COMMERCIAL IS JUST DAYCARE OFFICE. IT'S ALL RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. PERFECT. THANK YOU.

GOT A CLARIFICATION ON THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE. YOU MENTIONED 900,000. IS THAT THE FULL TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE OR IS THAT JUST. I WAS FOR SOME REASON, THINKING THAT YOU GUYS WERE PUTTING IN A SIGNAL UP TO TWO IF REQUIRED. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? WE ARE PUTTING IN A SIGNAL AT 195 AND ALSO PUTTING A SIGNAL AT RONALD REAGAN, AND THEN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE IS PAID. ON TOP OF THAT, THE ADDITIONAL 900,000 ON TOP OF THAT. THANK YOU, AMY, ON THE AMENITY CENTER IS THE ONE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. WOULD THAT BE SOLELY FOR SUN CITY RESIDENTS AND AND THESE RESIDENTS, IF THEY WERE ADDED INTO SUN CITY OR WERE THE WOODSIDE FOLKS ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AMENITY CENTER? WOODSIDE TRADITIONAL DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO. SO THIS WOULD JUST BE AN ADDITIONAL SUN CITY AMENITY CENTER. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD. OH, ONE MORE REAL QUICK. GO AHEAD. SORRY. YES, I HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THEM. OKAY. YOU WANT TO LET HIM FINISH AND THEN GO THROUGH? SURE. LET'S DO THAT. JUST TO FURTHER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. STEWART, THE HOMES ARE VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE. THE FLOOR PLANS DO DIFFER IN LAYOUT. LARGER BATHROOMS IN THE SUN CITY, DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS THAT ARE MORE DESIRABLE FOR THIS CLIENTELE. SO JUST TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND THEN CONTINUING ON THE PRESENTATION, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME ENTRY CONCEPTS HERE, WHICH FURTHER REITERATES THAT THIS SIMPLY, NOT SIMPLY THIS JUST IS A CONTINUATION OF SUN CITY. SO THIS ENTRY MONUMENT MAINTAINS WHAT OUR LAND PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT SCC PLANNING DOES IS MODERN HILL COUNTRY, SO THIS PROBABLY LOOKS FAMILIAR TO THE RESIDENTS CURRENTLY AND THEN RESIDENTS OF SUN CITY AS WELL. NO REAL CHANGE. AND WE UTILIZE NATIVE LANDSCAPING AS MUCH AS WE CAN ACROSS THE 5500 ACRES. WE FEEL AS IF IT'S DESIRABLE FOR THE END USER AND ALSO DROUGHT TOLERANT SPECIES LESS SOD THAN TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

ESSENTIALLY A CONTINUATION. AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE OF SUN CITY AND THEN GETTING INTO THE AMENITIES, THE PROPOSED THOMPSON AMENITY CONCEPT IS SHOWN HERE. AND ALSO SHOWN HERE ON THE LEFT IS A COMPARISON TO A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE THOMPSON TRACT. AS AMY MENTIONED, WHEN WE FIRST CAME UP HERE, I GOSH, IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN MORE THAN A MONTH AGO. TIME'S FLYING. BUT PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO, WE DID INCREASE THE PROPOSED THOMPSON AMENITY SITE TWO ACRES TO 7.4 ACRES. IF THIS WERE A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, ESSENTIALLY WE'D BE DOING ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF ACRE SITE FOR

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AND. IT'S I CALLED IT A HIDDEN TAX. AND I UNDERSTAND BUYER BEWARE, YOU SHOULD DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. SO I WENT TO SUN CITY PULTE TO SEE WHAT YOUR PULTE MORTGAGE ESTIMATOR SAYS ABOUT TAXES. AND WHENEVER YOU CALCULATE THE TAX RATE THEY ARE IN THEIR ESTIMATOR AND YOUR ESTIMATOR. YOU'RE USING A TAX RATE OF 0.1.74 FOR EVERYTHING MORE OR LESS. THAT'S INCLUDING THE THE SCHOOLS, COUNTY, EVERYTHING ELSE. WHEREAS IF I GO TO A PERSON THAT LIVES RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE WAS PULLED OFF OF, THEY'RE USING A RATE OF 2.48. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. YOUR ESTIMATOR IS NOT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE MUD TAX. SO WHENEVER IF I'M A BUYER AND I'M COMING AND LOOKING AND COMPARING TAXES, COMPARING WHAT MY MORTGAGE IS GOING TO BE, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME YOUR ESTIMATOR IS NOT TAKE YOUR ESTIMATOR IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE MUD TAX. AND THAT BOTHERS ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MUD TAX IS $0.55. THE CITY TAX IS ONLY $0.35. THAT'S A 20 CENT INCREASE. THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT PAYING. AND IT'S IT'S A HIDDEN TAX. AND IT BOTHERS ME FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING. NOW, THEN I WANT TO LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK LIKE I DO. SO YOU HAVE THIS TAX THAT IS NOT EXACTLY APPARENT WHEN YOU GO TO ANY OF THESE SITES TO COMPARE COST OF HOUSES AND EVERYTHING, IT'S NOT APPARENT. SO IF I'M AN EXISTING HOMEOWNER, I HAVE TO DECREASE THE COST OF MY HOUSE TO TRY TO MAKE IT MATCH YOURS. SO INSTEAD OF GROWTH PAYING FOR GROWTH, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, BY ALLOWING YOU TO CHARGE SO MUCH FOR A MUD TAX, YOU'RE DECREASING THE COST OF YOUR HOUSE AND THE UPFRONT COST, NOT IN THE TOTAL COST, BUT IN THE UPFRONT COST. AND THE PERSON THAT LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, THEY HAVE TO DECREASE THEIRS. SO THEY'RE LOSING VALUE. IF THEY HAVE TO MOVE OUT TO GO TO AN ASSISTED LIVING OR SOMETHING, THEY'RE LOSING VALUE. AND SO THIS HIGH RATE IS NOT ONLY SOMETHING THAT THE PERSON BUYING THE HOUSE NEEDS TO BE COGNIZANT OF, WHICH A LOT OF THEM AREN'T. IT'S HURTING THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE ALSO. SO YOUR RATE BOTHERS ME. I THINK THE RATE NEEDS TO BE MUCH, MUCH LESS. I SEE YOU HAVE A FEW THINGS HERE 12 INCH MAIN TO AN 18 INCH MAIN. SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT. YEAH, OKAY. BUT I DON'T, I CANNOT SEE WHERE $0.55 IS CLOSE TO JUSTIFIED. AND I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD LIMIT MUD TAX IN CITY TO A THIRD OF THE CITY TAXES, MORE OR LESS, UNLESS YOU CAN COME BACK AND SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE ADDITIONAL TAXES ARE FOR. AND THAT MEANS STARTING FROM ZERO, NOT FROM THE $0.12, BUT WHAT ALL THIS MUD TAX IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE AGE RESTRICTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAD A LOT OF GOOD POINTS. OUR SENIORS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY VOLUNTEER, THEY SPEND MONEY. THEY DON'T USE THE ROADS AS MUCH AS A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT'S A FAIRLY SAFE COMMUNITY. THEY MAY USE EMS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT

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AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT NOT BE AGE RESTRICTED. THE AMENITY CENTER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ME AND THEY TALK ABOUT THERE WAS AN AMENITY CENTER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE STARTED SOME TIME AGO, AND IT HASN'T STARTED NOW. WHEN YOU GET TO BE TO A CERTAIN AGE, YOU LOOK AT LIFE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. YOU LOOK HOW MANY MORE YEARS OF ACTIVE YEARS, GOOD YEARS DO I HAVE? AND WHENEVER YOU DELAY SOMETHING, IF YOU'RE THINKING, WELL, I'VE GOT 8 OR 10 MORE GOOD YEARS AND SOMETHING'S DELAYED THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, TWO YEARS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT THING IS SHRINKING VERY QUICKLY. AND THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO ENJOY CERTAIN THINGS. SO IF YOU HAVE AN AMENITY CENTER AND YOU'RE TELLING THEM YOU'RE GOING TO START, THEY EXPECT YOU TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN FOR ME. AND I HAD A QUESTION ON GO TO SLIDE 10 OR 11. OKAY. IN THE BOTTOM CENTER, THERE'S A BIG BEAR SPOT, WHICH IF YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE SIX, IT SHOWS IT AS AN AMENITY CENTER. I BELIEVE IF I'VE GOT THAT RIGHT, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT? HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. GO BACK HERE. GO BACK. YEAH. NO GO THE ONE. SO IN THE VERY CENTER THERE'S AN AMENITY CENTER. A PURPLE THING HERE. YES. GOTCHA. THAT'S THE AMENITY CENTER FOR THE WOODSIDE COMMUNITY. OKAY, SO. YEAH. AND THE OTHER PLOT, IT JUST DIDN'T SHOW ANYTHING. YOU HAD ALL THE HOUSES OUTLINED. YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING IN THAT SPOT. SO THAT WAS CONFUSING TO ME. SO THAT'S OKAY. OH, AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU WANT TO TIE THIS TO SUN CITY. AND I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE A LITTLE, A FEW PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT AS YOU GET OLDER AND OLDER, YOU DON'T LIKE TO GET OUT ON HIGHWAYS.

SECONDARY ROADS ARE ONE THING, BUT TO GET OUT ON RONALD REAGAN OR 195, AND EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO USE ANY AMENITIES EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO GET OUT ON THE ROAD. OR IF WE NEED TO GO OVER TO THE AMENITY CENTER HERE, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER TO TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SUN CITY. AND THAT CONCERNS ME. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT IT, BUT THAT THAT IS A A PROBLEM THAT I HAVE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

SURE. I HAVE A SEVERAL RESPONSES. GO AHEAD MYSELF AND THEN I'M SURE AMY DOES AS WELL.

BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU POINTING OUT WHAT SEEMINGLY MIGHT BE MISLEADING INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE. THAT WOULD BE NEWS TO ME. I'M NOT IN MY ROLE. CLICKING AROUND OUR MORTGAGE CALCULATOR. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE SERIOUSLY, AND WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND REPORT BACK ON THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. TO FURTHER CONTINUE THAT POINT OR THAT CONVERSATION. IT GOT BROUGHT UP LAST TIME AT WORKSHOP WHERE, YOU KNOW, DO OUR END USERS OR POTENTIAL BUYERS, ARE THEY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PURCHASING IN A MUD AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? RIGHT. WELL, OUR SALES CONSULTANTS AT PULTE, WE TALK ABOUT THE TOTAL TAX RATE THAT THESE BUYERS WILL BE ENTERING INTO AT AT THE INITIAL CONVERSATION. NOT ONLY DO WE TALK ABOUT IT THEN, BUT WE TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SIGN DISCLOSURES WHEN THEY GO UNDER CONTRACT, WHEN THEY BEGIN TO PURCHASE THE HOME AND THEN AT THE CLOSING TABLE, THEY ALSO HAVE EVEN MORE DISCLOSURES THAT THEY'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEY'RE IN A DISTRICT, IN THIS CASE OF THE THOMPSON TRACT, WHICH WOULD BE A MUD DISTRICT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE OPERATE AS IT IS TODAY. AND LIKE I SAID, YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT OUR WEBSITE, WE WILL LOOK INTO IT AND GET BACK TO YOU IN THAT REGARD. AS FAR AS CONNECTIVITY GOES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT ONE. AMY, I JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, BEN, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY OR HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTIVITY QUESTION. SO. TO GET FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, AS I CALL IT, TO THE MAIN PART OF SUN CITY, I'VE EITHER GOT ON GET ON RONALD REAGAN WITH A CURRENTLY A 65

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AND IF YOU LIVE ON ONE SIDE AND NEED TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE, IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL.

BUT UNLESS YOU GET IN YOUR GOLF CART, YOU'VE GOT TO GET OUT ON A MAJOR ROAD, A 65 MILE AN HOUR ROAD. AND THAT THAT BOTHERS SOME PEOPLE AS AS WE ARE NOT AS YOUNG AS WE USED TO BE. SO THAT THAT IS MY CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE THE THE GOLF CART PATH, AND OUR PREACHER WAS SOON GOING TO BE GOING FROM THE WORSHIP PLACE TO WOODSIDE TO GIVE A SERMON AND THEN COMING BACK, AND HE CAN EITHER TAKE THE SHORTCUT ON GOLF CART, OR HE'S GOT TO GET OUT ON ONE OF THOSE ROADS TO COME ALL THE WAY AROUND TO GET TO ANOTHER PART OF SUN CITY. SO THERE'S IT'S A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER IS NOT IMPENETRABLE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. YEAH.

UNDERSTOOD. AND AMY KIND OF ALLUDED TO THE THE WOODSIDE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WOODSIDE TRAIL BOULEVARD. I'M PROBABLY BUTCHERING THE NAME. YOU KNOW THE THOMPSON TRACK COMING ONLINE SOONER GETS YOU THE CONNECTIVITY TO 195 QUICKER. IF WE WERE TO FORWARD WITH THE THOMPSON TRACK, AND THEN ALSO AGAIN, FROM AN ACCESSIBILITY STANDPOINT, AMENITIES BEING CONSTRUCTED ON, AS YOU REFER TO THIS SIDE OF THE CREEK, I THINK WOULD HELP WITH THE CONNECTIVITY ISSUE AS WELL. IS MY OPINION OF THE THE MATTER HERE? DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR CONCERN? THE QUESTION IS HOW TO GET BETWEEN A AND B WITHOUT GETTING ON 195 OR RONALD REAGAN. YES, WE CAN GET OUT ON RONALD REAGAN, AND THOSE TRUCKS ARE COMING DOWN THERE AND THEIR TRUCKS, BIG TRUCKS. THEY HAD FOUR ACCIDENTS THERE AND TEN DAYS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO GET OUT ON THAT ROAD IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO. AND WE LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO OUR DIFFERENT FRIENDS HOUSES AND GO TO THE AMENITIES CENTER AND FORCING PEOPLE OUT ONTO THAT ROAD. IS A CONCERN. IT'S NOT AN IMPENETRABLE, BUT IT'S, IT'S A CONCERN, RIGHT? AND PACE HELPS WITH CONNECTIVITY. WITH THE WOODSIDE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUING THE THOMPSON ADDITION THAT WE NEED THE SPEED AND VELOCITY TO CONTINUE BUILDING THESE ROADS AND CONNECTION POINTS. IS THERE A WAY TO GET ACROSS WHAT I CALL THE CREEK WITHOUT GETTING OUT ON 195 OR RONALD REAGAN? BESIDES THE GOLF CART? GO AHEAD. YEAH. BEN, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THOSE COMMENTS. APPRECIATE THAT. WE DID ORIGINALLY IN WOODSIDE WHEN WE WERE IN TITLING IT IN 2021. THAT WAS A COMMENT THAT CAME UP, WHICH IS WHY WE DID ADD THE GOLF CART PATH, YOU KNOW, TO CONNECT THE TWO COMMUNITIES. BUT BECAUSE OF THE THERE'S A WILLIAMSON COUNTY KARST FEATURE THAT'S UP ALONG RONALD REAGAN THAT'S PRETTY LARGE. THEN THERE'S A THERE'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TOPOGRAPHY, DRAINAGE. THERE WASN'T A WAY, YOU KNOW, TO CONNECT DIRECTLY INTO, INTO SON CITY AND NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, COME OFF OF RONALD REAGAN. BUT SO THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THE GOLF CART PATH TO MAKE THAT CONNECTIVITY. SO YOU'RE SELLING SON CITY AS GETTING MORE. YOU CAN GET MORE MONEY FOR A HOUSE IF IT'S SON CITY PLUS A FEW AMENITIES, YOU GET MORE MONEY FOR IT. BUT YET THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE THE SAME CONNECTIVITY THAT I DO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK. THEY CAN GET THERE, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME. AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. AND OH, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN GET MORE MONEY FOR THAT. IT SEEMS EVEN MORE TO ME THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE YOUR MUD RATE BECAUSE YOU CAN SELL YOUR HOUSES FOR MORE. SO THEREFORE YOU DON'T NEED AS MUCH HELP WITH THE MUD RATE. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY THE CONNECTIVITY THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS PROJECT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET FEEDBACK. I THINK I THINK I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU NICK. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA FROM JUNE 28TH, 2022 IS WHENEVER WE VOTED ON THE CONSENT FOR THE WOODSIDE MUD.

SO THIS THIS WOULD BE AN I'M GOING TO CALL IT ANNEXATION INTO THAT EXISTING MUD. SO SO WHATEVER THE TERMS AND AGREEMENTS WERE WITHIN THAT CONSENT OF THAT MUD OR WHAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS PROPERTY AS WELL? YES. I MEAN, TYPICALLY, I MEAN, WHEN THERE'S AN ADDITION LIKE THIS, IF WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL THINGS ONTO THIS, WE CAN. THE TIMING OF THAT ONE WAS UNIQUE IN THAT IT WAS PRIOR TO THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES BEING ADOPTED. SO ANY ANYTHING THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED IN WOODSIDE OTHER THAN THE, THEY DO HAVE A PIECE

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SO THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL CONFIRM TO COUNCILMEMBER STEWART'S QUESTION ON THE COMMERCIAL IN THESE AGREEMENTS, IN THESE AGREEMENTS, IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS YOU WANT TO PUT ONTO THE COMMERCIAL, WE CAN DO THAT AND HAVE DONE THAT ON MOST OF OUR MOST OF OUR AGREEMENTS. EVEN IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY. C-3, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN THAT WE'VE RESTRICTED THROUGH THESE CONSENT AGREEMENTS. REAL QUICK, AMY, CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET FEEDBACK? ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA ASK YOU SOME FAIRLY BLUNT QUESTIONS. AND SO IF Y'ALL DON'T GET THIS APPROVAL, DO Y'ALL, DO Y'ALL DO THIS PROJECT? IF Y'ALL DON'T GET THE AGE RESTRICTED THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. NO, WE DON'T. JUST BECAUSE THE MARKET HERE, WE WOULDN'T DO THIS AS A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT. SO WE WOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IF IT'S NOT A SUN CITY PRODUCT. OKAY. SO IF IF IT DID NOT GET INTEGRATED INTO WOODSIDE, I'M ASKING YOU TO PUT ON YOUR HAT AS A AS AN EVIL DEVELOPER. AND THIS GETS DEVELOPED AS AN ETJ OR, YOU KNOW, OUT OF CITY MUD. YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF PRODUCT, HOW MUCH DENSITY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET ON THIS? YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IF IF WE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T DEVELOP THIS LAND IN COOPERATION WITH THE CITY, IT WOULD IT WOULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT, RIGHT? YOU WOULDN'T HAVE, YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE A LOT HIGHER DENSITY. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT YOU HAVE HERE. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE PROBABLY THE

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THANKS. THANK YOU. BEN, I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU SHORT, BUT I THINK WE CAN PUT YOU DOWN FOR A NO. BUT WE WE NEED TO KIND OF MOVE. BUT UNLESS YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. YEAH. I THINK WE PUT BEN DOWN FOR A NO. GO AHEAD KEVIN. I'M OVERALL SUPPORTIVE OF GOING AHEAD AND MOVING FORWARD. A COUPLE OF THINGS. I THINK WE NEED TO INCORPORATE INSURERS. THE INCREASED ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS LIKE THE FIRST LIKE THE CURRENT WOODSIDE HAS THE FIRE CIP FEE. NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND UPDATE THE NUMBER TO MAKE SURE IT'S MATCHING TODAY'S TODAY'S NEED AND DOLLAR AMOUNT, I THINK INCREASING. I APPRECIATE THE ADDITION OF COMMERCIAL. NOW I'M GOING TO CRITICIZE THE COMMERCIAL. NOT REALLY CRITICIZED, BUT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY DOUBLE THE SETBACK. IF IT'S C THREE DOUBLE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT ON THE C THREE WITHIN THE C THREE. ZONING UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL I DON'T KNOW THE BUILDING ENVELOPE IS. AND IF THAT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT. SO MAYBE THAT DOUBLING IT'S NOT THE RIGHT AMOUNT. BUT NICK IF YOU COULD WORK ON THAT AND NEGOTIATE THAT LOOKING JUST TO INCREASE THE C THREE UP AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL A LITTLE BIT OR THE SETBACK, THE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH THE IMPACT FEES. I THINK THIS SECTION NEEDS TO PAY THE IMPACT FEES, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THEY'RE IN PLACE AND WHATEVER THOSE ARE SHOULD BE PAYING THAT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN NEGOTIATE IN THE WAY OF, I DON'T MIND IF WE WAIVE THOSE. IF IF THERE'S OTHER COSTS THAT ARE OFFSITE THAT NEED TO BE DONE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY, THAT WOULD OF COURSE, THOSE WOULD BE CREDITS TO IT ANYWAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, GETTING BOTH TRAFFIC LIGHTS, IF THAT IS AN OFFSET OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, BUT GIVE YOU SOME FREEDOM TO NEGOTIATE ON THAT FRONT. I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN THE MAIN THINGS I HAVE. THANK YOU. THE, THE TWO MAIN THINGS THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS OBVIOUSLY THE COMMERCIAL AT THE FRONT, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. AND THEN THE AGE RESTRICTION AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE CITY, I FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT. I THINK AMANDA SUMMARIZED MY FEELINGS PRETTY WELL ON THAT. I'M GENERALLY AGAINST MORE AGE RESTRICTION IN THE CITY, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS ATTACHED TO SUN CITY, I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE IT MAKES SENSE. SO I'M GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF IT. MY ONLY FEEDBACK, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COVERED THERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE, BUT IF YOU CAN JUST ASSURE US ON THAT ONE, IF YOU WANT TO OPEN UP THE OLD AGREEMENT AND PUT THOSE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES IN THE WHOLE SITE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN LOOK AT THAT TOO. JUST OFFER THAT UP. I MEAN, IT'D BE A GREAT DEAL FOR YOU ALL. IT'S INTERESTING AS AS A RESIDENT OF SUN CITY, I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT SUN CITY HAS THE CHANCE TO ACTUALLY EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE I'VE ENJOYED A QUALITY OF LIFE THERE, AND I'VE SEEN WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THEIR AMENITY CENTERS. I PARTICULARLY LIKE THE FACT THAT THE COMMERCIAL HAS BEEN ADDED. I'M PLEASED WITH THE FACT THAT THERE'S THE TWO SIGNALS, NOT JUST ONE. SO OVERALL, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH NEGOTIATING THE MUD EXPANSION, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE EXPANSION. THAT'S ALSO TRUE. I EARLIER STATED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT HAVING AN AGE RESTRICTION COMMUNITY DOES NOT BOTHER ME. I THINK IT'S FINE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I APPRECIATE THE COMMERCIAL PUSH OFF OF OUR SEGREGATING 195 FROM RESIDENTS. THANK YOU FOR THE FINANCIAL SIDE. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL AND ALL OF THIS. I AM BLOWN AWAY THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING A $250,000 PREMIUM FOR A SUN CITY PRODUCT. BUT I GUESS AS I DRIVE THROUGH SUN CITY, I CAN SEE WHY IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE INVOLVEMENT PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE. I LOVE TO SEE THAT. SO I GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AS LONG AS AGAIN, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER PITTS WAS MENTIONING C THREE IN THE ZONING AREA. THE ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS ANYTHING WITH C THREE CARRIES. WHAT A 65 FOOT HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON IT. SO I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT WANT THAT ABUTTED TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. SO I'D BE REALLY CAUTIOUS IN HOW WE COME OR HOW WE LOOK AT THAT COMMERCIAL TRACK THAT YOU'VE GOT AGAINST 195. BUT THAT'S MY ONLY FEEDBACK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I THINK WE'VE GOT CLEAR DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD HERE. I DO YOU KNOW, I'D REITERATE WHAT EVERYONE SAID. I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT EACH PROPERTY AS AS IT IS AND WHERE IT IS. AND I THINK THAT BEING CONTIGUOUS TO SUN CITY, YOU KNOW, IS KIND OF WHAT WE WHAT YOU'VE HEARD IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE DEVIATION FROM THE MUD POLICY, WHICH HOPEFULLY OTHERS WON'T TAKE AS CARTE BLANCHE TO GO, YOU KNOW, UP THAT RATIO THROUGHOUT THE

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AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M IN SUPPORT OF AS WELL MOVING FORWARD. AND WITH EVERYTHING, THE CONDITIONS, EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS STATED HERE. SO THANK YOU NICK. THANK YOU TEAM AND WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN SOON. HEY, LET'S TAKE FIVE MINU

[1.C Heirloom PID Development Agreement]

SO THE PURPOSE IS TO SEEK COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE HEIRLOOM PIG, WHICH IS A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GRANT ADDITIONAL VARIANCES TO THE PYD POLICY AND ALLOW WATER, WATER QUALITY PONDS TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY. SO THE FEEDBACK REQUESTED FROM COUNCIL IS ONE. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE REQUESTS THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED DURING THE PRESENTATION? TWO DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT EXPANDING THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW ALL OR SOME OF THE COSTS REQUESTED TO BE ADDED TO THE PYD CONSTRUCTION BOND? AND THIRD, DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT CITY STAFF EXPLORING OPTIONS TO ALLOW THE WATER QUALITY PONDS TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT MAINTAINED BY THE HOA? AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THE FULL PRESENTATION. THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ADD ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT THAT'S THAT'S NEEDED. SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED, ZONED AND HAD A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVED IN AUGUST OF 2025. THE PUD COVERS MOST OF THE LAND USE STANDARDS, AND THE PYD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COVERS SOME ADDITIONAL LAND DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES THE OWNERSHIP OF THE WATER QUALITY PONDS AND THE PYD REQUIREMENTS. THE PROPERTY IS 620 ACRES AND WILL INCLUDE INCLUDE UP TO 3600 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, VARYING IN SIZES AND TYPES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND A LARGE SITE OWNED BY GSD. THE PYD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SPECIFIED AN APPROVED VARIANCE, WHICH ALLOWS THE DEVELOPER TO ISSUE CONSTRUCTION BONDS FOR THE COST OF THE PRIMARY COLLECTOR ROAD AND LOWER THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS BOND ISSUANCE FROM A 4 TO 1 VALUE TO LIEN RATIO TO A 2 TO 1 VALUE LIEN RATIO. IF THEY BUILD THE ENTIRETY OF THE COLLECTOR ROAD IN THEIR INITIAL PHASE. SO JUST TO ORIENT YOU A LITTLE BIT TO THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE FAR RIGHT, BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER IS THE INTERSECTION OF RONALD REAGAN AND WILLIAMS DRIVE.

YOU'VE GOT COUNTY ROAD 248 THAT CUTS RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. I SAY COUNTY ROAD, BUT IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS NOW, SO IT'S NOW A CITY ROAD. THERE ARE TWO FUTURE ROADS THAT ARE SHOWN. ONE IS GOT THE YELLOW, BLUE AND RED, WHICH IS THE FUTURE PRIMARY COLLECTOR ROAD THAT CONNECTS FROM PALMER RANCH BOULEVARD ALONG 2338. AND THEN IT ULTIMATELY TIES INTO RONALD REAGAN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SITE. MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS HERE ALONG RONALD REAGAN. YOU'VE GOT THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE KIND OF ORANGE AND TAN, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME MULTIFAMILY AS WELL. AND THEN THE GISD SITE IS IN BLUE. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THIS KIND OF TEAL BLUE COLOR, WHICH IS NOT AN EXISTING ROAD. THAT'S A FUTURE PRIMARY ARTERIAL ROAD THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED BY THE BY THE DEVELOPER. SO THE ROAD IN QUESTION, THOUGH, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS COLLECTOR ROAD THAT'S IN YELLOW, BLUE AND RED. SO THE CITY'S NORMAL PYD POLICY REQUIRES THAT EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN THERE, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS, THE CITY MUST HAVE CONFIRMED THE PIT IMPROVEMENTS TO BE REIMBURSED HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS, AND THE CITY HAS ACCEPTED THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE HEIRLOOM PYD. THE CHANGE THERE WAS THAT THE ISSUANCE OF PYD BONDS WOULD BE ALLOWED PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, AND THIS IS JUST THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE IN THIS HEIRLOOM PIT AGREEMENT, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS IF THEY AGREE TO CONSTRUCT THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT PRIMARY COLLECTOR, THE AGREEMENT SAYS THEY CAN BUILD

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SO SINCE THAT'S A PRIVATE OWNERSHIP, IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY PYD REIMBURSEMENTS. IT HAS TO BE A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT. SO IF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS EXCEPT THE WATER QUALITY PONDS CAME IN, THAT WOULD BE A COST OF ROUGHLY 15.3 MILLION. THAT WOULD BRING THE VALUE TO LEAN RATIO IN TO ROUGHLY 3.09 TO 1. HEY NICK, ARE THESE ARE THOSE THE PONDS THAT ARE THAT ARE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE OR FOR THE OR FOR THE RUNOFF FROM THE ROADS. SO TYPICALLY, WHAT WE'LL SEE IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THE ROAD ITSELF, THE PUBLIC ROAD ITSELF AND EVERYTHING FOR THE, THE DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE SERVING BOTH. SO, YOU KNOW, IN THEORY, THEY COULD GO IN AND LOOK AT WHAT PORTION OF THOSE PONDS ARE FOR THE ROAD AND WHAT ARE FOR THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. I THINK IN THEORY, THE ENGINEERS COULD RUN THAT. BUT THESE PONDS SERVE WILL SERVE BOTH PURPOSES. ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSTRUCTION BOND BEFORE I MOVE INTO THE THE PONDS. I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ON THE MASTER IMPROVEMENT AREA WITH THE WATER WASTEWATER, THE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S ONLY IN AND AROUND THAT AREA. IT'S NOT FOR THE WHOLE SITE. I MEAN, CAN YOU CAN YOU SHOW THAT AREA AGAIN, I, I'M NOT SHOWING THE WATER QUALITY PONDS ON THIS SLIDE, BUT SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE WHEN THEY BUILD THIS ROAD, THIS PRIMARY COLLECTOR ROAD, THERE WILL BE WATER LINE, THERE WILL

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AND WE HAVE A WASTEWATER LINE RUNNING THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN AREA THERE. IS THERE ANY BENEFIT TO THE CITY TO HAVE THAT WASTEWATER LINE? DOES IT CREATE REDUNDANCY? DOES IT IMPROVE THE SYSTEM OVERALL, BROADLY? NO. I MEAN, IT SETS UP THIS AREA FOR SUCCESS. IT SETS UP THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AREA FOR SUCCESS. SO THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S DEFINITELY BENEFIT THERE. AND THEN THE THE PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS ARE BASICALLY RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF EFFICIENCY OF DOING THOSE, THOSE AT THE SAME TIME AS ARE THOSE NEAR THE ROAD. THE PARKLAND SHOW ME IS THE PARKLAND. PARKLAND IS EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN GREEN THERE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT IT'S OFF SIDE OF THE ROAD. IT'S FOR THE WASTEWATER. OKAY. CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. HEY NICK, CAN I ASK IT IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY WHERE KEVIN'S GOING? SOMEWHAT. BUT. SO IF YOU WERE TO COME IN AND PULL A PERMIT TO BUILD THIS ROAD, COULD WE DIFFERENTIATE AND GO, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU KNOW, WE WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO BUILD IF YOU WERE BUILDING THIS ROAD IN TERMS OF THE UTILITIES AND THE PONDS VERSUS, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY VOLUNTARILY, BUT WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD WHEN THEY BUILD THE ROAD VERSUS IF WE WERE BUILDING THIS ROAD, IF WE WERE BUILDING THIS, THIS PRIMARY COLLECTOR, WHAT ALL WOULD WE REQUIRE OURSELVES TO PUT IN IN TERMS OF UTILITIES AND PONDS AT THE TIME WE WERE BUILDING THAT ROAD? IS THERE A WAY TO LIKE, TAKE A SNAPSHOT AND FIGURE THAT PART OUT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I MEAN, SO I'LL JUST I'LL GIVE A SIMILAR BUT BUT DIFFERENT EXAMPLE, JUST BECAUSE WE HAD TO RUN SOME CALCULATIONS. SO WITH THE, WITH THE SOUTHWESTERN 560 PROJECT, WE HAVE THE G TECH AGREEMENT, WHICH SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT ONLY REIMBURSEMENT FOR ROADS. SO THE ENGINEER IN THAT CASE WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT, OKAY, THERE'S OTHER DEVELOPMENT COSTS, INCLUDING UTILITIES. SOME OF THE UTILITIES ARE EVEN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL OUT AND SHOW JUST WHAT THE COSTS OF THE ROAD ARE. THEY WERE ALSO ABLE TO PULL OUT IN THAT CASE. THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, ONE MAJOR STORMWATER POND. SO THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL OUT WHAT'S THE PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF THE STORMWATER POND COST FOR THE ROAD VERSUS THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO IN THEORY, WE COULD WE COULD DO THAT IN THIS CASE AS WELL. YEAH. AND I GET THAT. BUT I GUESS IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT THE AGREEMENT CURRENTLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, WOULD WE LET THEM BUILD THE ROAD

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SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO. NICK. ONE OTHER QUESTION. I WASN'T HERE ON THE FIRST ROUND OF THIS.

IS THE CITY PURCHASING THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR ALL THIS FROM THE DEVELOPER? IS THAT SO THE YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO THE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE COLLECTOR ROAD AND THE ARTERIAL ROAD THAT YOU SHOW IS DEDICATED AND THEY'RE THEY'RE FUNDING THE FULL COST OF THOSE ROADS. NOW, THIS, THIS AGREEMENT WAS UNIQUE IN THAT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO IMPACT FEES.

BUT WHEN WE ADDED UP ALL THE COSTS OF THE MAJOR ROADS THAT ARE IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE, THE IMPROVEMENTS GO WAY BEYOND WHAT THEY WOULD PAY AN IMPACT FEE. SO THE ONLY PART THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR A RIGHT OF WAY IS THE GREEN ALONG WILLIAMS DRIVE. THEY WILL DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR THAT RIGHT OF WAY. THAT ANSWERS YOUR YOUR QUESTION. OKAY, LET ME GO ON TO THE PONDS AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT. SO IN REGARDS TO THE WATER QUALITY PONDS, THIS IS WITHIN THE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WHICH BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE OWNER SHALL NOT DEDICATE TO THE CITY, NOR WILL THE CITY ACCEPT OWNERSHIP OR RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRIVATE DRAINAGE FACILITIES.

SO NOW IT DOES SAY OTHER THAN THE TRANSPORTATION RELATED DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT'S UNIQUE IS YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A DESIGNATED POND FOR THAT. THERE'S THERE'S NOT REALLY A WAY TO TO CALL THAT OUT. SO THE, THE PONDS ARE BASICALLY SET UP TO ALL BE PRIVATELY OWNED. SO THE DEVELOPER HAS REQUESTED FOR THE CITY TO OWN THE WATER QUALITY PONDS AND FOR THE HOA TO PERPETUALLY MAINTAIN THE PONDS. SO ALL CITY OF GEORGETOWN, MUD AND PICKETT AGREEMENTS REQUIRE IN ALL DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL IN GEORGETOWN REQUIRES THE HOA TO OWN AND MAINTAIN THE WATER QUALITY PONDS ON THEIR SITE, AND THOSE ARE STRICTLY MONITORED BY TCWC. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT WE DON'T WANT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED IN BASICALLY OWNING THOSE TYPES OF PONDS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH STRICTLY FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. SO IN A MUD DEVELOPMENT, THE MUD WILL TYPICALLY OWN AND MAINTAIN THOSE PONDS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO ALLOW THEM TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THE COST OF, OF THE POND THROUGH THEIR MUD BONDS. AND THEN THEY WILL TRANSFER IT TO THE HOA FOR OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE AT A LATER DATE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE HERE WITH THE PYD, BECAUSE SINCE THE PONDS ARE OWNED BY THE HOA IN A PIT DEVELOPMENT AND ARE THEREFORE CONSIDERED PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PIT BONDS. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS ALL COMES DOWN TO. NOW THIS IS STANDARD. ALL OF OUR OTHER PYD AGREEMENTS, THE PONDS ARE ARE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED. AND SO THEY DON'T GET PYD REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THEM. SO THERE AND AGAIN, THERE ARE OTHER MULTIPLE PITS IN THE CITY.

NONE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP TO THE CITY. I WOULD SAY IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THIS, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND ALLOWING SOME TIME TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN LIMIT THE LONG TERM RISK TO THE CITY AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT NOT MAKE AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE IN THIS AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME RISKS. WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES WITH OTHER PONDS THAT DIDN'T GET TRANSFERRED OVER CORRECTLY IN THE PAST AND ARE NOW KIND OF SITTING IN LIMBO, WHICH BY DEFAULT KIND OF PUTS THE CITY, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY ON THE HOOK, BUT WE'RE WE'RE INVOLVED AT THAT POINT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF RISK INVOLVED HERE AND WHY THE CITY HAS TAKEN THIS STANCE IN THE PAST. SO EVEN IF YOU WANT US TO EXPLORE IT, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE TO THE AGREEMENT. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO HOW DOES IT WORK THOUGH IF IF WE OWN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS DRAINING INTO THEIR POND AND. IF THAT POND IS IS NOT MAINTAINED OR WHATEVER, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DOES THAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR RIGHT OF WAY AT THAT POINT? OR THE FLIP SIDE, LET'S SAY WE'RE NOT PROPERLY AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO IF WE'RE NOT PROPERLY MAINTAINING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WE'RE DRAINING INTO THEIR POND, DO THEY HAVE RECOURSE

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YES. AND THEN WE'D BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OWNING AND MAINTAINING THOSE. BUT I MEAN, WE WOULD BE IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO DO THAT THOUGH. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT WE I MEAN, BUT WE DO THAT ON ROADS RIGHT NOW AND WE DO THAT ON DB WOODS. WE DO THAT ON OTHER ROADS THAT WE'RE BUILDING IS WE'RE WE'RE BUILDING. RIGHT. AND WE HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THAT.

IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY TO, TO PROPORTIONAL LIKE, LIKE DIVVY UP THE PROPORTION OF THE QUOTE UNQUOTE, PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY A PRIVATE IMPROVEMENT. SOME OF THE WATER'S COMING OFF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND SOME OF IT'S COMING OFF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. ALSO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MOBILIZE AN EARTHWORK GUY TWICE. HE'S GOING TO COME IN AND BUILD THE ROADS AND DIG THE PONDS IN ONE MOBILIZATION. IT'D BE STUPID TO DO IT ANY OTHER WAY. SO, I MEAN, THERE'S GOT TO BE WE. YEAH. WE'VE ASKED THE ATTORNEYS TO EXPLORE THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD IDEALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST LOGICAL WAY TO HANDLE THIS. AND IF WE HAD FIGURED IT OUT, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE ASKING YOU A QUESTION. THEY THERE WAS NOT A WAY THEY COULD FIGURE OUT TO DIVVY UP THE OWNERSHIP NECESSARILY. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY MORE OF A THE CITY OWNS IT OR, OR, OR THEY OWN IT. IT'S. WELL, IT'S NOT EVEN IN MY MIND. IT'S NOT EVEN DIVVYING UP OWNERSHIP AS MUCH AS IT IS. JUST LIKE ASSIGNING A COST VALUE TO THAT. BUT MAYBE IT'S MORE COMPLICATED. I'M SURE IT'S MORE COMPLICATED LEGALLY THAN IT WAS MORE COMPLICATED FROM A, FROM A REIMBURSEMENT STANDPOINT. AND WHAT'S LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO IN THAT CASE. OKAY. SO AND LOGAN IS HERE AVAILABLE TO COME UP AND ADD ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT OR ANSWER ANY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE SEEKING FEEDBACK FOR REALLY THE THREE QUESTIONS ON THE PAGE. DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DO YOU SUPPORT EXPANDING THE VARIANCE? AND THEN DO YOU SUPPORT CITY STAFF EXPLORING OPTIONS ON THE WATER QUALITY PONDS? YEAH. AND THEN BEFORE WE DO FEEDBACK AND LOGAN, DO YOU WANT TO GO FOR A SECOND AND. WEIGH IN AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS FOR, FOR LOGAN AND OR NICK. I CAN PULL THAT ONE UP BECAUSE I CAN I THINK I CAN ANSWER A COUPLE OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I WAS JOTTING NOTES WHILE Y'ALL WERE TALKING, BUT HERE'S SO AGAIN, LOGAN KIMBALL, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE HEIRLOOM DEVELOPMENT. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. GLAD TO BE BACK. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S ALMOST BEEN A YEAR SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE. BUT HERE WE ARE NONETHELESS. SO I WANT TO POINT OUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE HEIRLOOM SIGN ON THE BARN THERE THAT WE'VE GOT THE STRING LIGHTS AND STUFF. KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AND YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN IN JUST A MINUTE. BY WAY OF UPDATE REAL QUICK, PIT FINANCING WE SUBMITTED IN DECEMBER. SO WE WERE HERE WITH YOU GUYS IN AUGUST. LIKE NICK SAID, WE SUBMITTED PIT FINANCING AGREEMENT IN DECEMBER. KIND OF GOT, YOU KNOW, WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH IT. AND NOW HERE WE ARE KIND OF SOLVING THE LAST OF THE ISSUES. PHASE 120 261 DASH OR DASH ONE DASH CON IS OUR MASTER IMPROVEMENT SET OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS. WE SUBMITTED IT SHORTLY AFTER SUBMITTING THE PIT FINANCING AGREEMENT. WE'RE ALL CLEAR. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TREES AND LANDSCAPE, LANDSCAPE PLANS ARE OUT TO BID, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE POTENTIAL CONTRACTORS IN ORDER TO KIND OF FINALIZE THOSE DRAWINGS WITH THE CITY STAFF. AND THEN WE HAVE PHASE SIX A AND PHASE FOUR, WHICH ARE BOTH SINGLE FAMILY LOTS UNDER CONTRACT TO TWO BUILDERS IN EACH SECTION. EVERYBODY'S KIND OF EAGERLY AWAITING US GETTING STARTED, GETTING THOSE LOTS GOING. SO THAT'LL BE ROUGHLY 400 LOTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE GROUND OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. PECK PLANS ARE OUT FOR BID AS WELL. SO THIS, I THINK, GETS TO ONE POINT THAT YOU GUYS WERE KIND OF HONING IN ON. SO THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK, IS DEFINITELY THAT COLLECTOR ROAD ALL THE WAY ACROSS. AND THE WAY I'VE DEPICTED IT ON HERE IS THAT THE STORM SEWER IS IN GREEN. THE TWO KIND OF BLOBS ARE THE PONDS THAT ARE IN QUESTION. THE WATER IS IN BLUE, AND THEN WASTEWATER IS IN RED. THE WASTEWATER THAT'S IN THE ROAD AS PART OF THE

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IT'S NOT. YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS TO THAT END, IF YOU DON'T BUILD THE PIPE IN THE CREEK, THOSE TWO SECTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING WITH LOTS IN IT CAN'T FLUSH THE TOILET BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT HAS TO GO OVER TO NOLINA. SO. SEQUENCE OF CONSTRUCTION IS, I GUESS THE ANSWER THAT I WOULD GIVE ON THAT. THANK YOU. YEP. SO THE SECOND PIECE OF OUR REQUEST AND KIND OF WHAT NICK WAS ALLUDING TO IS WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPE THAT WE'RE PUTTING BACK ON TOP OF THE ROAD. SPECIFICALLY, THESE PLANS ARE WHAT'S IN THERE IN THE CITY.

IT'S A PART OF THAT. CON. ONE 2026 PLAN. IT'S OUT TO BID WITH THE LANDSCAPERS RIGHT NOW. SO

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AND I PROBABLY SHOULD STATE MY NAME FOR THE RECORD. SO THE SECRETARY DOESN'T GET MAD AT ME.

SO IT'S TALLY WILLIAMS. SO THE THE VALUE TO LEAN THAT NICK REFERENCED IS BASED ON THE APPRAISAL THAT WE JUST GOT AS PART OF THE PIT, AND IT IS ASSESSED ON AN AS ENTITLED BASIS. SO WITH NO IMPROVEMENTS. IS THAT THE YOU HAD A PRIVATE APPRAISER. THAT'S THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THAT IS THE PRIVATE APPRAISER FOR THE PIT. LIKE AS A PART OF ESTABLISHING THE PIT VALUE TO LEAN FOR THE UNDERWRITING DOCS. SO IT'S A THIRD PARTY APPRAISER. OKAY.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW, NICK, IF THIS IS FOR YOU OR DAVID OR LEE IF SHE'S HERE, WHO. BUT PIT BONDS ARE ISSUED, ROADS BUILT. LOGAN DECIDES TO WALK THE PROJECT. I KNOW HE'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT MAKE IT HAPPEN. AND NOW WE HAVE A VACANT LOT THAT IS IN JEOPARDY. WHO'S LIABLE FOR THOSE PIT BONDS NOW? ARE WE NOW LIABLE AS A CITY FOR THE PIT BONDS. AND HOW IS THAT? HOW IS THAT HANDLED? WHAT'S OUR RISK? LOOK, I'M TRYING TO ASSESS RISK OF THE CITY HERE. YEAH. SO YOU'RE TALKING THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. YES, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN THE IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND I MEAN TALLY MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE TECHNICALITIES A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THAN I CAN. BUT I MEAN, IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, THE CITY HAS CLAIMED TO THE PROPERTY AT THAT POINT. SO I MEAN, IT ULTIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M I DON'T KNOW. BUT YEAH, BUT WE ALSO AND SKY MAY WANT TO CHIME IN, BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR PIT POLICY AND DEVELOPED THAT INITIALLY AND LOOKED AT HOW THE ASSESSMENT RULES WORK AND THE PIT ASSESSMENT AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY AUTHORIZING THE, YOU KNOW, THE PIT ASSESSMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE WORK THROUGH THE LEGAL OBLIGATIONS AND, AND WHAT WE CONFIRM THROUGH THE LEGAL ANALYSIS AT THAT POINT WAS, NO, WE WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR ASSUMING THOSE ASSESSMENTS OR, OR LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAYMENT OR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF SOME KIND OF FAILED PIT STRUCTURE. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT I WAS THINKING THAT PIT, WE ACTUALLY ISSUED IT FOR THEM UNDER OUR BOND RATING. IS THAT NOT? I THOUGHT WE ISSUED UNDER OUR BOND RATING FOR PIT DEBT. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? I AM NOT ON COUNCIL. BUT YES, YOU THE CITY IS THE ONLY VEHICLE THAT CAN ISSUE THE BONDS. SO IT HAS TO BE MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY THAT ISSUES THE BONDS, BUT IT DOES NOT. IF THE BONDS WERE TO GO DEFUNCT, WHICH THEY NEVER HAVE, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE CITY'S CREDIT RATING. SO WE CALL IT A HEADLINE RISK. LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT SAYS CITY OF GEORGETOWN 2026 HEIRLOOM BONDS FAILED, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A HIT ON YOUR CREDIT RATING FOR THE CITY. OKAY, SO. I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT. AND ZACH IS HERE FROM DFG, WE'VE GOT THREE YEARS OF INTEREST RESERVE. AND SO THE AMOUNT OF THE BOND THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ISSUING IS 24 MILLION AND CHANGE. AND THEN OUT OF THAT COMES INTEREST RESERVE AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS. SO WE'VE GOT THREE YEARS WORTH OF CAPITALIZED INTEREST IN THE BOND INTEREST. YEAH. OKAY. DOES ANY OF THAT ANALYSIS CHANGE IF WE TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE BONDS.

OF THE PONDS? NO. OKAY. YEAH. THE OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING QUEST? I THINK I'VE ASKED THOSE. I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO, TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE PIT CONSTRUCTION BONDS, FOR THE STUFF IN THE ROAD, THE. I UNDERSTAND LOGAN'S ANSWER ON START LOW ON THE ON THE OFF SIDE, WHAT WE CALL OFF SITE WASTEWATER OFF SITE FROM THE ROAD. IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THAT'S NORMAL STANDARD, PROPER LINING UP. I'M NOT SAYING HE'S

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OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRST AGREEMENT WE PUT IN PLACE WE THOUGHT WAS THEY THOUGHT WE THOUGHT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING. YOU FIND SOME ISSUES HERE AND THERE. BUT I DO THINK THE. I WOULD APPRECIATE AND LIKE TO SEE THAT FIRE STATION SITE DEDICATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT WOULD ALSO HELP IMPROVE THE THE DEVELOPMENT, THE VALUE OF DEVELOPMENT AND MARKETABILITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT. HAVING A FIRE STATION THERE, IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP THE CITY. AND I THINK THE DEDICATION OF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE AS WELL. NICK. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. SO LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, WE HAD A AN AGREEMENT AND NOW THEN WE'RE RELOOKING THIS AGREEMENT. AND AS I RELOOKED THE AGREEMENT, I'M NOT SEEING WHAT IS IN IT FOR THE CITIZENS OF GEORGETOWN. I UNDERSTAND IT MAY MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT WARRANTS US GOING BACK AND RENEGOTIATING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATED. THE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE COST OF THE ROAD DIDN'T COME IN AS HIGH AS WE THOUGHT. SO THEY WANT TO SEE IF THEY CAN USE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE. AND THAT THAT JUST DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME. SO I DO NOT SUPPORT THE EXPANDING OF THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION. AND AS FAR AS THE THE PONDS, I DON'T SEE IT BEING ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITIZENS OF GEORGETOWN FOR TAKING OVER THE OWNERSHIP OF THOSE PONDS. SO I'M NO AND NO. THANK YOU. DO YOU NOT THINK CONSIDERATION WOULD BE HAVING A FIRE STATION DEDICATED TO THE CITY THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUY, WOULD NOT BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS AND PROPER CONSIDERATION FOR RENEGOTIATION OF THE CONTRACT.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY. BUT IF THEY BROUGHT THAT IN, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DO THAT. IF WE BROUGHT THAT IN, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. SO KEVIN, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK I, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE THINGS. THE, THE FACT THAT WE ARE PURCHASING THE, THE LAND FOR THE FIRE STATION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN CONSIDERATION TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY ALSO THE RIGHT OF WAY ON WILLIAMS. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING WE'RE PURCHASING THAT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS DOING. SO I'M NOT THEN INTERESTED IN US ALSO TAKING OVER THE WATER QUALITY PONDS. I THINK, AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE TABLE AND THOSE TWO OTHER THINGS I JUST MENTIONED, THEN, YOU KNOW, AND WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK FOR FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST, I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE WAY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO IF THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS A PLAN THAT WORKS WITH WATER QUALITY PONDS, I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE OUR LEGAL LOOK AT THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS DOING AS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BE LIKE. SO IN THAT REALM, I DO NOT THINK THAT I'M INTERESTED IN THE WATER QUALITY PONDS. I THINK THE CONSTRUCTION BOND I'M INTERESTED IN COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT THAT. IF, AGAIN, IF WE'RE LOOKING BACK AT TWO OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I JUST MENTIONED WITH THE DEDICATION OF THE FIRE STATION AND WILLIAMS DRIVE RIGHT AWAY, POTENTIALLY. THANKS. REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK, LOGAN, AGAIN, SINCE THIS HAS NOW COME UP TWICE THE GIVE AND THE THING THAT THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN IS GETTING IN THE CONSTITUENTS IN GEORGETOWN IS GETTING AS A PART OF THIS. IF YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK TO THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH THAT NICK PUT UP, WE'RE BUILDING THE ROAD ALL THE WAY ACROSS TWO MILES OF OF FOUR LANE COLLECTOR ROAD ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO MAKE THAT COMMERCIAL LOOP CONNECTION. SO THAT WAS OUR GIVE. AND FOR THAT, YOU AGREED TO LET US DO CONSTRUCTION BONDS. SO THAT'S SO REALLY WHAT WHAT WE THINK WE'VE ALREADY ALSO NEGOTIATED THE AGREEMENT. AND SO WE'RE JUST HERE KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT WE GET CLARIFICATION FROM YOU GUYS. SO THAT WAS OUR THAT

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EVEN IF WE EVEN IF WE SET AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE, IT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO MANAGE. WHEN IT GOES SIDEWAYS DOWN THE ROAD, IT SEEMS LIKE MORE OF A COMPLICATION THAN IT'S WORTH.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR. YEAH, I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID AS IT PERTAINS TO THE FIRE STATION SITE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M FINE, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATING PORTIONS OF THAT. CONSTRUCTION TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE ISSUANCE OF THE BOND AS WELL. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING, LOGAN, I AGREE. I COULD SEE WHY YOU WOULD FEEL THE WAY YOU DO ON THE ROAD. I MEAN, I THINK THE PARK IMPROVEMENT IS A DIFFERENT ASK THAT WASN'T ASKED ORIGINALLY AND NOT ENVISIONED IN THE IN THE CONTRACT OR THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT THERE. THANK YOU. SO I THINK I'M GOING TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE HERE. I THINK WE'VE GOT CONSENSUS THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE 2 TO 1 ON ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'VE LAID OUT, OTHER THAN THE WATER QUALITY PONDS. I MEAN, AND I GUESS MY $0.02 ON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY A A WAY TO GET THAT DONE. WHAT I WOULD TELL LOGAN AND THE TEAM IS YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO WANT TO WAIT AROUND ON US TO FIGURE THAT OUT FOR THIS PROJECT. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT ON FUTURE PROJECTS. IF WE IF WE KNOW FROM THE GET GO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT WITH THE PARKS. I'M NOT PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED TO DOING IT, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK FAST ENOUGH FOR THIS PROJECT. SO I THINK JULIAN JUST OFFERED FOR PALMER RANCH TO OWN THE DETENTION PONDS. I THINK JOE PERSONALLY SAID HE WOULD JUST TAKE HIM OVER AND MAINTAIN HIM. NICK, MAKE SURE YOU WRITE THAT DOWN IN YOUR NOTES. ALL RIGHT? YOU GOOD. NICK. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. JOE

[1.D Pole Attachment Policy Updates]

WE'LL GO OVER THE POLICY UPDATES. SO ALEX, TAKE OVER. AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL JUMP IN. IF I CANNOT ANSWER. WAYNE HAS AGREED TO ANSWER AS WELL. SO. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. I'LL TRY TO BE AS EFFICIENT WITH IT AS POSSIBLE. AGAIN, I'M ALEX SPIN, I'M THE ENGINEERING DESIGN SUPERVISOR FOR THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT. JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON OUR POLE ATTACHMENT POLICY. THIS POLICY AFFECTS THINGS OTHER THAN POWER CARRYING INFRASTRUCTURE ON OUR POLES. SO THIS IS THINGS LIKE YOUR COM, AT&T FRONTIER, ALL YOUR COMMUNICATION COMPANIES THAT HAVE TO GET ON OUR ON OUR POLES. WHEN THEY ATTACH TO OUR POLES, THEY PUT LOAD ON IT. IT USES OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO RECOVER ALL THOSE COSTS. WE. GOING INTO THE HISTORY OF IT, WE USED TO HAVE A SORT OF INFORMAL PROCESS FOR POLE ATTACHMENTS. WE IN 2021, WE ADOPTED A MORE FORMAL

[02:10:03]

THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT INITIAL COST. WE ARE INCREASING THE REINSPECTION FEE SOMEWHAT LARGER AMOUNT 56%. THE REASONING BEHIND THIS IS WE'RE MORE EDUCATED AS TO OUR FLEET COSTS WERE ABLE TO. REALLY MORE ACCURATELY PUT THOSE INTO OUR INSPECTIONS. NOW THAT WE ARE THE ENTITY DOING THOSE INSPECTIONS. AND WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO DISINCENTIVIZE RE-INSPECTIONS, WE GET TWO INSPECTIONS WITH THAT INITIAL INSPECTION. WE WANT THEM TO GET IT RIGHT WITH THOSE FIRST TWO, THE MAKER ENGINEERING DESIGN FEE THAT IS STAYING THE SAME.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE COST FOR CREATING A DESIGN. IF THEY WANT TO ATTACH TO OUR POLE, THE POLES AREN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO HOLD YOUR YOUR COMMUNICATION WIRES THAT YOU WANT TO HANG UP.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THOSE POLE POLES. AND SO THEY'RE ADEQUATE.

THE MAKER DECONSTRUCTION FEE THAT'S ALWAYS AT COST. OUR MATERIALS ARE UPDATED DAILY.

OUR LABOR RATES ARE UPDATED ANNUALLY. SO THOSE ARE ALL UP TO DATE AND AT COST SPECIFIC TO THE UPGRADES THAT ARE BEING MADE. OUR ANNUAL RENTAL FEE IS STAYING THE SAME. THE ANNUAL RENTAL FEE IS BASED ON THE POLE SPACE THAT EACH ATTACHMENT USES UP, AND THAT'S A PER ATTACHMENT FEE. WE ARE ADDING SOME VIOLATION FEES. THESE. THE INTENTION BEHIND THESE IS REALLY TO DEVELOP A MORE EFFECTIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF THESE ATTACHES. WE HAVE TROUBLE GETTING A HOLD OF OUR ATTACHMENTS. AND IF THEY'VE GOT A COMM LINE THAT'S KIND OF HANGING DOWN AND IT'S, IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE ESC. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HONESTLY A PAIN TO GET THEM TO COME OUT AND FIX THESE. AND SO BEING ABLE TO LEVY FEES ON THESE ATTACHES WILL ALLOW US, GIVE US THE TEETH WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT AND SAY, YOU'VE BEEN IN VIOLATION FOR THREE DAYS. THERE'S A GRACE PERIOD WITH EACH OF THESE. SO IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE FEE, BUT THEY'LL HAVE SOME PERIOD OF TIME FROM THEIR INITIAL WARNING TO CORRECT THOSE. AND THEN WE'LL START LEVYING FEES PER ATTACHMENT. IS THAT LIKE SO WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH SONATA, I'LL SEE LINES COMING DOWN LIKE THIS BLACK BOX JUST HANGING AT THE AT THE GROUND IN PEOPLE'S YARDS, BASICALLY. AND I'VE BEEN THINKING THAT THE, THE IT COMPANY, THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, IT'S THEIR, THEIR DATA, THEIR DATA LINES, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THERE ALWAYS. IT WAS AFTER THEY WERE EXTENDING WI-FI FIBER FIRST OR SOMEBODY'S. I'M GUESSING I KEEP THINKING THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT DONE AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK, BUT THEY JUST KEEP LAYING THERE ON THE GROUND NEXT TO THE POLE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE TEETH TO FIX? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. GREAT, GREAT.

YEAH. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT TOO? I KNOW YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU HAVEN'T DETERMINED THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM, BUT WHAT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF

[02:15:03]

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. OKAY, GREAT. AND THESE NOTES DOWN HERE, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THIS HISTORICALLY COORDINATING, ADDRESSING SAFETY VIOLATIONS WITH THESE ATTACHED ENTITIES IS NOTORIOUSLY DIFFICULT. WE HAVE IN ADDITION TO THESE FEES, WE'VE STARTED USING SOME PUBLIC NOTIFICATION SERVICES LIKE ENGINES, NATIONAL JOINT USE SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT IT'S SORT OF A, A PORTAL THAT EVERYBODY WHO IS ATTACHED TO OUR POLLS CAN GO IN THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY UPDATES AND STUFF. IT'S JUST ANOTHER AVENUE OF COMMUNICATION TO HELP US FIX THESE ISSUES. SO THAT WAS PRETTY QUICK. IN SUMMARY, WE DO RECOMMEND ACCEPTING THESE CHANGES. IT'S GOING TO HELP US PAY FOR THE POLES THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PUT IN TO SUPPORT THESE LINES. I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO TELL ANY OF YOU GUYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERNET'S GROWING. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ACCESS TO THAT.

PART OF THAT IS MORE COMM LINES ON OUR POLES, MORE WEIGHT ON OUR POLES. WE'VE GOT TO ADJUST.

WE DID REVIEW THE WITH THE ELECTRIC BOARD ON JUNE 18TH, THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS STILL TBD.

IT'S IN. WE'RE STILL REVIEWING IT INTERNALLY. WE'RE AT THE WORKSHOP NOW. WE'RE IN PROCESS AND WE WILL IMPLEMENT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN. SO EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 26 WOULD NOT BE RETROACTIVE. SO THOSE. WE COULDN'T USE THIS POLICY ON THOSE LINES. JUST LAYING THERE, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GUESSING THERE ARE SOME AREAS I'M PICKING ON SARASOTA JUST BECAUSE I DRIVE THROUGH IT QUITE A BIT. AND I'M SURE THERE'S SOME OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE'S SOME LINES THAT ARE VERY LOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW SOME SOME BIGGER TRUCKS GET THROUGH THERE. IS THIS ENVISION REQUIRING THOSE. THEY'RE NOT ELECTRICAL, THEIR DATA AS WELL.

WOULD IT ENVISION MAKING SURE THE STANDARDS WISE IT'S THEY'RE THEY'RE PUT IN HIGH ENOUGH OVER OVER STREETS. YES. YES, ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU'RE OVER A STREET, THE TYPE OF ROAD YOU'RE GOING OVER, THERE'S HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT'S, THAT'S PER THE NSC. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE NO PROBLEM ENFORCING. PERFECT. THANK YOU. MR. PITTS.

WHAT WE ARE ALSO DOING IS WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT'S CALLED A JOINT USE AUDIT, WHERE WE WILL BE USING A THIRD PARTY TO GO AND AUDIT ALL OF THE ATTACHES TO OUR POLES. WE WILL IDENTIFY WHO ARE THE ATTACHING COMPANIES, WHO ARE THE OWNERS, AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY GIVE US A LOT MORE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE. AND LET'S SAY THAT THOSE ONES I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE LAYING THERE. WHOEVER ATTACHED THOSE, IF THEY COME AND REQUEST ANOTHER AGREEMENT FOR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY, CAN WE I DON'T KNOW IF WE LEGALLY CAN DO THIS. IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE, BUT CAN WE REQUIRE LIKE THEM TO GO FIX AND CORRECT THOSE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR NEXT AGREEMENT PUT IN PLACE? YES, YES, WE WE ARE REQUIRED TO ALLOW COMPANIES TO ATTACH, BUT WE ARE NOT. WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE LIABILITY TO OURSELVES OR TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO ANY OF THESE VIOLATIONS, WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE VIOLATIONS ARE ADDRESSED BEFORE WE PROCESS THE NEW APPLICATION.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL, THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE POLICY TOO. IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR FEES OR THEY HAVEN'T, THEY ARE HAVE VIOLATIONS. WE WILL STOP THEIR ONGOING APPLICATIONS AND NOT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE ANY MORE ATTACHMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. AND THEN ONE MORE JUST KIND OF PUBLIC PIECE ON THIS. WE GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THE STUB POLES. WHEN YOU SEE A NEW POLE GOING IN AND YOU SEE A SMALLER POLE NEXT TO IT THAT STILL HAS THOSE COLUMN LINES ON IT, I GET CALLS ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME IMPLEMENTING THIS POLICY. WE HAVE A ONE TOUCH PROGRAM TO WHERE WHEN ONE COM COMPANY MOVES OVER, THEY CAN MOVE THE REST OF THEM. THE PROBLEM IS NOW WHEN ONE COMPANY MOVES IN, THERE'S FOUR ATTACHMENTS ON A POLE THAT'S FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES. INSTEAD OF COORDINATING WITH ALL OF THOSE, HAVING A ONE TOUCH WOULD ALLOW

[02:20:02]

[Executive Session]