[1.A Employee Recognition - Years of Service - July 2026]
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MEETING. CITY, GEORGETOWN CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO CALL US TO ORDER. AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS. GO AHEAD MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. TODAY, I HAVE THE HONOR OF RECOGNIZING EXTRAORDINARY DEDICATION OF OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY. THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE THE ONES KEEPING OUR CITY SERVICES RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND ENSURING OUR COMMUNITY RECEIVES EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION, YOUR HARD WORK, AND YOUR UNWAVERING COMMITMENT. AT THIS TIME, WE INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD TO CONGRATULATE THE RECIPIENTS.
THIS MONTH, THERE ARE SIX EMPLOYEES CELEBRATING FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE. I'M GOING TO CALL EACH ONE OF YOU UP TO RECEIVE YOUR PLAQUE, AND IF YOU ARE PRESENT, PLEASE STAY UP FRONT SO YOU CAN TAKE A GROUP PICTURE. BRIAN ROJAS, ELECTRIC UTILITY. CHARLES BOWMAN, I.T. DEREK TAYLOR FINANCE. LINDA LAMB. LIBRARY. MICHELLE CHAMBERS. LIBRARY.
LIBRARIES. WORKING. SCOTT. PARKER. FINANCE. NOW, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO GATHER CLOSELY AFTER YOU SHAKE HANDS. SO WE CAN DO A NICE GROUP PICTURE AND FIT EVERYBODY IN HERE. RECIPIENTS GET TO BE IN THE MIDDLE. IN THE MIDDLE, IN THE MIDDLE. THANK YOU. IN THE MIDDLE. WINDOW. YOU. THANK YOU ALL TO OUR FIVE YEAR RECIPIENTS. THERE IS ONE EMPLOYEE CELEBRATING TEN YEARS OF SERVICE. MICHAEL WATSON, I.T.
OKAY. ALL BY YOURSELF? OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN FOR TEN YEARS OF SERVICE. WE HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES CELEBRATING 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. I'M GOING TO CALL YOU UP, AND YOU CAN SHAKE HANDS AND THEN STAY UP FRONT FOR A PHOTO. CESAR SALINAS POLICE. CHRISTOPHER SINES. POLICE.
I MIGHT STRUGGLE OVER THIS NEXT ONE'S NAME. LAURA MOLLOY, HR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. ERIC NEUNER, IF YOU WOULD JOIN UP FRONT, WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE BRANDON FONVILLE FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. OKAY. GIVE HIM A ROUND. GET THIS A
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LITTLE HIGHER. SORRY. YOU CAN MOVE IT BACK IF YOU NEED TO. SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE BRANDON FONVILLE FOR HIS 20 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH BRANDON FOR MOST OF THOSE YEARS, AND I'VE REALLY SEEN HIM DEVELOP INTO A LEADER OVER THAT TIME. HE JOINED THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT BACK IN 2006 AS A TURF MANAGER, AND HE'S CURRENTLY SERVING AS A PARK MAINTENANCE FOREMAN, AND HE'S BEEN DOING THAT FOR ABOUT 14 YEARS NOW. AND IN THAT ROLE, HE OVERSEES MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE CITY ATHLETIC FIELDS, TRAILS, MOWING OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. JUST THROUGHOUT OUR OUR GREEN SPACE FOR THE CITY. AND HE'S A REAL IMPORTANT PART OF ENSURING THAT OUR PARKS REMAIN CLEAN, GREEN AND SAFE. AND I THINK HE'S REALLY BEEN A CRITICAL PART IN ENSURING, THROUGH OUR CITY'S RESIDENTS SATISFACTION SURVEY THAT WE RECEIVED. I THINK IT'S LIKE 88% SATISFACTION FOR OUR PARKS. AND HE'S A BIG REASON THAT WE'VE DONE THAT. HE'S INCREDIBLY SOFT SPOKEN. ANY CONVERSATION YOU HAVE WITH HIM, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO GET A HEARING TEST AFTERWARDS, WHICH I DO. I DID THIS MORNING. I'M REALLY LEANING IN REALLY CLOSELY TO BE SURE I UNDERSTAND HEAR WHAT HE'S SAYING. BUT BENEATH THAT IS SOMEBODY THAT'S A GREAT LEADER FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. AND WE'RE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, EXCUSE ME, PROUD TO HAVE HIM. HE'S THE DEPARTMENT'S ONLY PESTICIDE APPLICATOR WITH WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, WHICH HE TAKES VERY SERIOUSLY TO ENSURE THAT OUR OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS ARE SAFE, SAFE FOR THE USERS, AND ALSO SAFE FROM PESTS, WHICH IS ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR WITH ALL THE SPRING RAIN WE'VE HAD. HE'S WILLING TO VOLUNTEER. HE VOLUNTEERS MOST WEEKENDS THAT WE HAVE ATHLETIC TOURNAMENTS OR THIRD PARTY ATHLETIC TOURNAMENTS. HE ENSURES THAT THOSE GO OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. ALSO WORKS VOLUNTEERS. AS FOR OUR ON CALL WEEKEND WORK, HE ATTENDED TARLETON STATE UNIVERSITY, HAS A DEGREE IN PLANT AND SOIL SCIENCE, WHICH REALLY HELPS HIM IN HIS CURRENT ROLE AS WELL. PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS WORKING WITH BRANDON IS THAT HE WAS A PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEER IN NEPAL FOR TWO YEARS, TWO TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, TWO YEARS, WHICH I THINK THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVING OTHERS, WHICH HAS SERVED HIM REALLY WELL IN HIS ROLE THAT WE HAVE NOW. WE ASKED HIM IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT HE WANTED US TO SAY TODAY ABOUT HIM, AND IT REALLY FOCUSED ON HIS FAMILY. HIS WIFE IS HERE. SHE'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. HER NAME IS ROSIE. THEY'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 27 YEARS. THEY'VE RAISED THREE KIDS, MADDIE, WILLIAM AND EMMA, AND MORE RECENTLY, THEY'VE BROUGHT ON A GRANDBABY THAT CALLS. IS THAT RIGHT, PEOPLE, PEOPLE FOR FOR YESTERDAY. THAT'S AMAZING. SO, BRANDON, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR THE CITY. YOU'RE QUIET. LEADERSHIP, COMMITMENT AND EXCELLENCE TO EXCELLENCE AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE HAS MADE A LASTING IMPACT ON THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU AGAIN AND CONGRATULATIONS, BRANDON. ALL RIGHT. CHIEF IS NOW GOING TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT AARON SWANSEA CELEBRATING 25 YEARS OF SERVICE. AARON'S NOT HERE. SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO STAND OR NOT IT'S UP TO YOU.OKAY. I'M GOING TO I WAS GOING TO HAVE ONE OF HIS SHIPMATES COME UP AND STAND IN PROXY. BUT THEY LOOKED MORTIFIED SO I DIDN'T DO IT. TODAY WE ARE HONORING OFFICER AARON SWANSEA FOR 25 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN. HE BEGAN HIS CAREER IN JULY OF 22,001 AND HAS SERVED OUR COMMUNITY WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND PRIDE. FROM THE FIRST DAY HE PUT ON THE BADGE, HE SPENT MANY YEARS IN PATROL, WHERE HE BUILT STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED HIS CALM LEADERSHIP AND A LOT OF CHALLENGING SITUATIONS. WHEN THE TRAFFIC UNIT WAS CREATED, WE RECREATED IT BACK IN APPROXIMATELY 2008. OFFICER SWANSEA WAS ONE OF ITS ORIGINAL MEMBERS AND I WAS HIS SERGEANT AT THE TIME, AND HE HAS REMAINED WITH THE UNIT FROM THE BEGINNING AND IS NOW ITS LONGEST SERVING OFFICER. HIS COMMITMENT HAS HELPED SHAPE THE UNIT INTO WHAT IT IS TODAY. HIS EXPERTISE, STEADY PRESENCE AND WILLINGNESS TO MENTOR OTHERS HAVE MADE A LASTING IMPACT. I WANT TO SAY, EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT HERE AND HIS WIFE IS ALSO NOT HERE FOR ME, IT'S ALWAYS REALLY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE STRENGTH OF THE SUPPORT HE'S RECEIVED FROM HIS HIS WIFE, AMY, YOU KNOW, I TELL ALL OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND
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REALLY ANYONE IN PUBLIC SAFETY THAT THEY DON'T DO THIS JOB ALONE. LIKE THE YOUR FAMILY SERVES ALONGSIDE YOU EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND SHE HAS BEEN WITH HIM THROUGHOUT EVERY SINGLE STEP. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR HER ALLOWING US TO TO HAVE HIM FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE. ALTHOUGH HE CAN'T BE HERE IN PERSON TODAY, WE EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION PUBLICLY FOR HIS YEARS OF DEDICATION AND HIS COMMITMENT AND CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE OF GEORGETOWN. WE LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE YEARS OF SERVICE. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'RE GOING
[1.B City Manager Proposed Fiscal Year 2027 Budget]
TO MOVE TO OUR BUDGET. AND DAVID'S GOING TO TAKE US OVER. I'M USED TO IT. IT'S OKAY. JUST KIDDING. OH MY GOSH. IT'S HILARIOUS. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE PLEASED TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS IS BUILDING UPON EFFORTS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST ACTUALLY THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR, BUT REALLY CENTERED ON BRINGING A DRAFT PLAN TOGETHER IN THE JUNE TIME FRAME FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER GETTING FEEDBACK ON. SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD UPDATES TO DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE BUDGET. WE'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE OR HAVE MADE FROM THE JUNE 23RD MEETING TO TODAY, AND SOME OF WHICH ALSO REVOLVE AROUND UPDATED TO THE OFFICIAL APPRAISAL ROLL THAT WE RECEIVED AT THE END OF JULY. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL COVER DEVELOPMENT OF MAJOR BUDGET FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 2027 BUDGET, AS WELL AS MAJOR THEMES.WE'LL COVER THE DIFFERENT FUNDS AND THEN JUST WALK THROUGH A FEW OTHER BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS HERE AT THE END. AND THEN JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION AND AND ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. SO FIRST, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET, TO DISCUSS THE KIND OF FULL BUDGET TOGETHER. FIRST IS THE PROPERTY TAX RATE CHANGE. SO WE RECEIVED CERTIFIED ROLLS AT THE END OF JULY AND, AND THROUGH THE BASICALLY WORKING THROUGH THAT TRUTH TO TAXATION CALCULATION, FACTORING IN OUR TOURS REVENUE AS WELL AS OUR FROZEN VALUES, WE ACTUALLY SAW A DECREASE IN OVERALL ASSESSED VALUATION. AND, AND THAT REALLY PRIMARILY IS DUE TO LOWER VALUES OF EXISTING PROPERTY. AND SO YOU'LL SEE HOW THAT'S REFLECTED. IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO SHOW IN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED RATE, WHICH IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH IS A ONE PENNY INCREASE, BUT IT'S ALSO A NO INCREASE ON THE AVERAGE TAX BILL FOR THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD. THE OTHER THING THAT WE SHOW IS THAT WE INITIALLY ANTICIPATED BEING ABLE TO MOVE 1.5 MILLION OF FUNDS IN THIS FISCAL YEAR TO THE COUNCIL CONTINGENCY FUND BASED ON SOME OF THESE SHIFTS IN PROPERTY TAXES, AS WELL AS A SHIFT WITH OUR AGREEMENT WITH HILLWOOD FOR THE WOLF RANCH, WOLF RANCH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE NEEDING TO MAKE A CHANGE THERE. AND IN LOWER THAT FROM 1.5 MILLION TO $1 MILLION. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE GENERAL FUND, NOT ONLY ENDING IN FISCAL YEAR 26, BUT THE STARTING REVENUE STANDPOINT IN 2027. WE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR WAY IN WHICH WE WERE CASH FUNDING AND DOING DEBT FINANCING FOR IN OUR WATER FUND, AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER TO CASH FUND MORE ITEMS BASED ON AVAILABLE CASH. AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO BASICALLY ISSUE $21 MILLION LESS IN DEBT AND FALL OF 2026 FOR THE GEORGETOWN REGIONAL WATER INITIATIVE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE WATER LINE FROM CIRCLEVILLE TO TO GEORGETOWN. ADDITIONALLY, THE SWIFT LOAN FUNDING IN 2027 IS BROKEN OUT SEPARATE FROM THE REVENUE BOND FUNDING. SO YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE SWIFT FUNDS THROUGH THE STATE, WHICH THROUGH THEIR LOAN PROGRAM, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT FOR THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN AND FOR OUR WATER UTILITY. ALSO, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE FACILITIES AND IT ALLOCATIONS AND THE FUNDS THERE AND RECOGNIZED. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE CONSISTENT METHODOLOGIES ACROSS ALL THE MAJOR FUNDS. THE ALLOCATIONS WERE REDUCED TO ALIGN WITH WITH THE JOINT SERVICE ALLOCATION APPROACH. AND SO WE PROVIDED THOSE CREDITS BACK TO ALL THE FUNDS BASED ON THAT FUNDING METHODOLOGY. SO YOU'LL SEE A LOWER TRANSFERS BASICALLY WITH WITHIN FROM THE FACILITIES AND IT FUND BACK INTO THOSE, THE
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OTHER FUNDS THAT HELP FUND THE IT FUND AND THE FACILITIES. AND THEN LAST I MENTIONED THE HILLWOOD MUD PROJECTIONS. WE'VE UPDATED THOSE FOR 26 AND 27. SO WHAT THIS IS, IS BASICALLY IT'S A CHAPTER 552 AGREEMENT. IT WAS AGREED UPON WHEN THE MUD WAS ADOPTED, THAT THE CITY WOULD REIMBURSE HILLWOOD FOR A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED FOR THE CREATION OF THE WOLF RANCH DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND BASICALLY, THE MECHANISM IS TO PROVIDE $0.15 OF THE CITY'S TAX RATE TO GO TOWARDS THAT FOR THE REIMBURSEMENTS TO GO TOWARDS HILLWOOD, OUR INITIAL ESTIMATE WAS LOW, AND BASED ON CERTIFIED ROLLS, WE'VE UPDATED THOSE NUMBERS AND WE'LL BE MAKING THAT PAYMENT. I BELIEVE THE OVERALL PAYMENT IS $28 MILLION THROUGH THE LIFE OF THAT. 552 AGREEMENT. SO SO WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER WITH WELL OVER PROBABLY WELL OVER EIGHT YEARS STILL TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS BEFORE THAT OBLIGATION IS, IS FINISHED. SO THAT IS A CHANGE IN, IN FROM THE 2023 JUNE 23RD, EXCUSE ME, PRESENTATION TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR TODAY. JUST AN UPDATE IN THOSE ESTIMATES BASED ON WHAT WE KNEW AT THE TIME AND WHAT WE KNOW NOW. SO KEY THEMES OF THE BUDGET HAVE NOT CHANGED.KEY THEMES ARE PUBLIC RESOURCE, PUBLIC SAFETY, RESOURCE INVESTMENT, STRATEGIC INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, RELIABLE SERVICE DELIVERY, INVESTING IN OUR PEOPLE, AND CONTINUED STRONG FINANCIAL AND FISCAL STEWARDSHIP. AND THEN JUST RECOGNIZING WE'RE ADDRESSING CERTAIN FINANCIAL TRENDS IN OUR CURRENT ECONOMY. AND SO WE'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT AT A VERY MUCH SHORTER CLIP THAN WE DID PREVIOUSLY WITH YOU. BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS BUDGET REALLY IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOCUSED. SO WE'RE ADDING PROPOSING ADDING 11 POSITIONS IN POLICE AND FIRE, FOUR IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 11 IN THE AND THEN SEVEN IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SIX FOR THE SECOND TRANCHE OF FOR STATION EIGHT, WHICH WILL HAVE THE THIRD TRANCHE AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, AS WELL AS COINCIDING WITH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF STATION FIRE STATION EIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS IN PATROL AND TWO IN EFFECTIVELY IN CID AND IN DETECTIVES. IN TERMS OF STRATEGIC INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, YOU'LL SEE THE THE LARGEST OF OUR $900 MILLION CIP BUDGET FOR THIS PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. IT COMES IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S OVER $700 MILLION. IT'S REALLY GOING TOWARDS TWO MAIN A COUPLE MAIN PROJECTS, TWO WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, AS WELL AS OUR WATER INITIATIVE TO GAIN GROUNDWATER FROM EAST OF GEORGETOWN INTO INTO OUR GEORGETOWN SYSTEM. WE CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT THE RELIABILITY OF OUR SERVICE DELIVERY THAT WAS REALLY HIGHLIGHTED BASED ON CITIZEN FEEDBACK. IN THE LAST CUSTOMER SERVICE SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED, REALLY RECOGNIZING THAT WE SET STANDARDS IN MULTIPLE LEVELS ON RELIABLE SERVICE DELIVERY AND SATISFACTION OF OUR SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THIS BUDGET ALSO FOCUSES ON OUR PEOPLE AND OUR EMPLOYEES. AND SO WE'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE COMPENSATION AS WELL AS IN ADDITION TO THE STRONG BENEFIT PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. ALL OF THIS IS DONE WITH A FOUNDATION OF STRONG FISCAL STEWARDSHIP. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT RESERVE LEVELS ARE INCREASING, THAT OUR RESERVE TARGETS ARE BEING MET. AND AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE REVENUE STABILITY RESERVE AT 8%, WHICH IS AN ADDED RESERVE IN THE GENERAL FUND BASED ON JUST VOLATILITY OF REVENUE, SPECIFICALLY IN SALES TAX AS WELL AS PILOT REVENUE, WHICH CAN, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS GROWING AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET. AND THERE IS VARIABILITY WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE ADDED RESERVES THERE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE KIND OF THE FINANCIAL TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING. SO WE'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE GROWING IN RELIANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND LESS ON PROPERTY TAX AND MORE ON MORE VOLATILE REVENUE SOURCES LIKE SALES TAX, AS WELL AS PILOT REVENUE AND FRANCHISE FEES. AND THE OTHER THING WE'RE SEEING AS A TREND IS WE'RE SEEING CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR ORGANIZATION, CERTAIN COSTS ARE GROWING AT A MUCH FASTER CLIP THAN WE'RE SEEING OVERALL REVENUE GROWTH.
AND SO THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENSES BOTH ON THE PERSONNEL SIDE AND FACILITY SIDE, AS WELL AS OUR IT COSTS, WHICH WHICH IS WE'RE NOT UNIQUE IN THOSE DYNAMICS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A TREND THAT WE'RE WATCHING AND GROWING AS IT CONSUMES MORE AND MORE OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET. THIS IS THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. SO YOU WILL RECALL THESE BRIEFINGS. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF BRIEFINGS TO GET TO THIS POINT, THE LAST BEING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, OUR COST OF SERVICE STUDIES, THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, AS WELL AS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTAL BRIEFINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ALL THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, OUR FOCUS CONTINUES TO BE ON MAINTAINING REALLY ADDRESSING THE IMPACTS OF GROWTH. WHILE
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WE'VE SEEN GROWTH SLOW OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE HAD HYPER GROWTH, YOU KNOW, FOR ALMOST A DECADE.AND WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, WRESTLING WITH THE CHALLENGES AND PRESSURE POINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT OVER HALF OF OUR BUDGET IS CAPITAL INVESTMENT. SO OVER THE $1.6 BILLION PROPOSED BUDGET, OVER HALF OF THAT 903 MILLION IS IN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. AND AGAIN, MOST OF THAT IS FOCUSED IN THE WATER UTILITY. WE DO HAVE THE FULL IMPACT OF POSITIONS THAT WERE STARTED LAST YEAR. THIS BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF 39.5 EMPLOYEES, PRIMARILY IN PUBLIC SAFETY JOINT SERVICES AND THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, WHICH WILL COVER THESE ITEMS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. WE DO INCLUDE COMPENSATION, WHICH INCLUDES MARKET MERIT AND STEP INCREASES FOR BOTH CIVIL SERVICE AND NON CIVIL SERVICE POSITIONS, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT JUST MAINTAINING OUR HEALTHY RESERVES. THIS SHOWS YOU THE ALL FUNDS BUDGET. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUE IS COMING FROM AS WELL AS THE MAJORITY OF OUR EXPENSE. AND THAT REALLY TIES TO THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET IS CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. SO BOND PROCEEDS ARE OUR LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE, SECOND TO CHARGES FOR SERVICE, WHICH PREDOMINANTLY ARE IN ELECTRIC UTILITY SERVICE, AS WELL AS WATER CHARGES. BUT THAT ALSO INCLUDES SOME ITEMS SUCH AS PARKS AND RECREATION AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BUILDING, INSPECTION FEES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THEN ON THE YOU CAN SEE HERE OUR TAXES, OVERALL TAXES, WHICH IS PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX, MAKES UP OVER LESS THAN 10% OF OUR OVERALL $1.6 BILLION BUDGET. SO ALSO NOT SURPRISING, YOU SEE ON THE USE SIDE, THE LARGEST EXPENSE, OVER HALF OF OUR BUDGET IS FOCUSED IN OUR WATER UTILITY. AND THAT IS REALLY, AGAIN, DRIVEN BY OUR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT OF OVER 700 MILLION OVER OVER PROPOSED FOR 2027. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE ELECTRIC UTILITY BEING THE SECOND LARGEST GENERAL FUND BEING THIRD. AND YOU SEE OTHER FUNDS BELOW THAT, FOCUSING IN ON THE GENERAL FUND, YOU CAN SEE THAT TAXES DO MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUE SOURCE OF $127 MILLION.
PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND, CHARGES FOR SERVICE MAKING UP THE SECOND PORTION, WHICH IS THE PARKS AND REC FEES, AS WELL AS AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT, SERVICE RELATED FEES. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE, PILOT IS GROWING A PERCENTAGE BASED BASED ON THE GROWTH IN BOTH OF OUR UTILITIES. AND AND THAT MAKES UP 17% OF OUR BUDGET. JUST FOCUSING IN SPECIFICALLY ON ASSESSED VALUATION AND TAX RATE. YOU CAN SEE OUR ASSESSED VALUATION IS RELATIVELY FLAT.
IN FACT, IT IS A SLIGHT DECLINE OF 1.8%. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW OUR HOMESTEAD ACCOUNTS WITH CAPS ON THEM. SO THEY BASICALLY THAT'S THAT 10% CAP THAT APPRAISALS CAN'T GO UP MORE THAN 10% PER YEAR. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT'S CHANGED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO 2022 AND 2021, YOU'D SEE THAT THOSE CAP PERCENTAGES WERE EVEN HIGHER AT THAT POINT IN TIME. THIS YEAR, THEY'RE ONLY 6% OF OUR HOMESTEADS ARE CAPPED. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE A DECREASE IN OVERALL TAX VALUE WITH OUR INCLUDING OUR TAX CEILING, OUR FROZEN VALUE, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT AT JUST THE GROWTH IN OUR TOURIST AREAS, THE VALUE AND THE TOURS DECREASES IN RESIDENTIAL VALUES AND INCREASED TAX REVENUE. AND SO THAT'S LEADING TO THE 1.8% LOWER APPRAISALS. WE ALSO YOU'LL RECALL HB NINE WAS WAS ADOPTED, WHICH EXEMPTS UP TO 125,000 OF APPRAISED VALUE ON TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY OF A PERSON'S A PERSON OWNS AND THAT FOR THE PRODUCTION OF INCOME. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT THAT VALUE ESTIMATED VALUE LOSS IS BASED ON THAT EXEMPTION, WHICH IS AT $116 MILLION. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE AGAIN, 2025 BUDGET 30 CERTIFIED ROLLS, WHERE WE HAVE FOR 2026. AND THEN AND THEN THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REDUCING THAT. YOU CAN SEE OUR GROWTH IN TOURIST REVENUE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE AN OVERALL. AND THEN THE EFFECT OF THE VALUES UNDER PROTEST AS WELL AS THE TAX CEILING, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE GET TO A LOWER OVERALL APPRAISED VALUE OR TAXABLE VALUE AMOUNT OF 14.8 BILLION VERSUS 15.1 BILLION LAST YEAR. DAVID, IS THAT EXEMPTION SOMETHING THAT BUSINESSES HAVE TO APPLY FOR? IT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY JUST GET. I THINK THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT. APPLY FOR IT. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO SO SO LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IS PROPOSED AT 68.4 MILLION, NOT DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. THE, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GOES TOWARDS PAYING FOR DEBT. SO AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT DEBT PAYMENT GOES FOR ROADS. SO THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR DEBT IN IN GENERAL, DEBT SERVICE IS FOR
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ROAD CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR FACILITIES. SUCH THINGS LIKE FIRE STATIONS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, PARKS FACILITIES AS WELL. BUT THE LARGE MAJORITY IS, IS ROADS.AND THEN THE SMALLER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IS TARGETED AT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. SO IT'S AT 23.9 MILLION THIS YEAR. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, OVERALL OUR PROPOSAL HAS A 4.2% INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE, 2.8 MILLION FOR WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE CALCULATING BOTH SIDES, THE DEBT SIDE AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONS SIDE. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE SPLIT BETWEEN. SO NOT SURPRISING. YOU CONTINUE TO SEE THE OPERATING MAINTENANCE SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE CONTINUE TO GO DOWN AND GO DOWN AS A PERCENTAGE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE TREND OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE RATE TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AS LAST YEAR, IS 32, 36.2 CENTS. THIS IS A 0.9 CENT INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR'S OVER THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET OR TAX RATE OF 35.3 CENTS, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS 3036 POINT $0.03. THAT'S ONLY A 0.1 CENT INCREASE FROM THE NEW REVENUE RATE. THAT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE INCREASE THAT WE'RE SEEING IS MORE ON THE DEBT SIDE OF OF THE TAX RATE THAN THE OPERATING SIDE OF THE TAX RATE. SO THE OVERALL PROPOSED TAX RATE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IS AT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, 36.3 CENTS. YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW THAT'S DIVIDED UP BETWEEN OPERATIONS AND DEBT SERVICE. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SPLIT LAST YEAR, THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE OF THE TAX RATE IS ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY BELOW $0.24. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S GOING UP OVER OVER A PENNY. ON THE DEBT SIDE, OPERATIONS IS IS ACTUALLY GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT EVEN FURTHER. THE NET EFFECT, THOUGH, I THINK IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE IS THE ACTUAL, ACTUALLY THE AVERAGE TAXABLE HOME VALUE FOR HOMESTEADS IS GOING HAS GONE DOWN 2.8%. SO IT'S GONE DOWN FROM 402,000 TO 391,000. SO WHEN YOU APPLY THE TAX RATE, PROPOSED TAX RATE TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, YOU SEE ACTUAL NO DIFFERENCE IN THE AVERAGE TAX BILL OR FOR THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD. SO THE TAX BILL FOR THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD WILL BE THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT AS IT WAS PROPOSED FOR THIS YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR VERSUS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR VERSUS THIS FISCAL YEAR. MOVING ON TO SALES TAX, WE'VE MAINTAINED THE SAME PROJECTIONS THAT YOU SAW IN JUNE. SO A BUDGETING 2% OVER 20 2026 PROJECTIONS. THIS IS OUR LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE IN THE GENERAL FUND. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN THE STABILITY REVENUE STABILITY RESERVE AT EIGHT 8% BECAUSE THE OVERALL BUDGET'S GOING UP, THAT THAT RESERVE IS GOING UP. SO IT'S NOW AT $7.8 MILLION. WE WANT TO JUST TO SHOW YOU A BREAKDOWN OF DIFFERENT SECTORS IN, IN OUR SALES TAX, THE MAJORITY OF OUR SALES TAX IS RETAIL FOCUSED. BUT YOU CAN SEE OVERALL IT'S RELATIVELY RELATIVELY FLAT. THE SALES TAX THAT YOU'RE SEEING, YOU'RE SEEING SOME INCREASES IN AREAS, SOME DECREASES IN YEARS, BUT OVERALL RELATIVELY FLAT FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. THE GENERAL FUND MAJOR EXPENSES. NOT SURPRISING FOR YOU. ALL THE GENERAL FUNDS PROPOSED 126 MILLION IN EXPENSES. AND FIRE IS THE LARGEST DEPARTMENT. WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR IS WE HELPED CREATE MORE ACCURATE PICTURE. SO TAKING SOME OF THE ALLOCATIONS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT ALLOCATIONS AS WELL AS JOINT SERVICE ALLOCATIONS. AND WE ACTUALLY EMBEDDED THOSE INTO EACH ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS BASED ON THEIR PERCENTAGE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE SHOWING MORE THEIR FULL ALLOCATIONS. SO MORE THEIR TRUE COST. AND SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT BOTH TOGETHER MAKE UP ABOUT 60% OF THE GENERAL FUND OVERALL. AND YOU CAN SEE PARKS AND RECREATION AND PUBLIC WORKS COMING IN AFTER THAT, AND THEN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BELOW THAT. SO AGAIN, OVERALL, SLOWER GROWTH IN PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX REVENUES WITH LARGER GROWTH IN OUR PILOT REVENUE, REFLECTING THE FAST GROWTH OF OUR OF OUR UTILITIES. WE ARE PROPOSING 14 POSITIONS, AS I MENTIONED, SEVEN IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FOUR IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OVERALL, IMPROVING POLICE SERVICES AND WITH ADDITIONS TO PATROL AND INVESTIGATIONS, AS WELL AS EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WITH A THREE YEAR STAFFING PLAN FOR STATION EIGHT AND AGAIN, MAINTAINING A CONSERVATIVE FINANCIAL POSTURE. THE OTHER POSITIONS AND I'LL ACTUALLY IN A COUPLE SLIDES, I'LL HIGHLIGHT WHAT THOSE OTHER POSITIONS ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND. THIS. WE ALSO YOU ASKED FOR US TO DO THIS IN THE BUDGET AND WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE REQUESTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE MAKING TO THE FRIENDS OF THE PARKS, AS WELL AS FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. AND SO THIS IS THE REQUEST THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE MAKING TO THEM, NOT TO SAY THAT THEY WILL FUND EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS AT THE FULL LEVEL, BUT THESE ARE THE TYPES OF REQUESTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO BE. AND THEY'RE ALSO OTHER THAN THE PARKLAND PURCHASE, THEY'RE VERY CUSTOMARY TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN
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PREVIOUS YEARS IN TERMS OF THEM FUNDING A DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT TO PROGRAMING FOR OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. SO, SO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR BOND PROGRAM. WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE HAD CHANGE IN TAXABLE VALUE, WHICH MEANS, WHICH MEANS WE'LL NEED TO REVISIT THE TAX SUPPORTED CIP PROGRAM. WE WILL BE COMING BACK BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING AN ADDITIONAL BOND PROGRAM IN MAY OF 2027 AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PROJECTS BASED ON SLOWER GROWTH AND APPRAISED VALUE. THOSE PROJECTIONS ARE ALSO CHANGING AS WELL. OUR OUR PROPOSAL IS TO KEEP THE CURRENT LIST THAT WE HAVE IN THE INITIAL PROPOSED BUDGET. KEEP THAT LIST IN OUR CIP PLAN, BUT YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE WILL NOT SELL DEBT FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS UNTIL THE SPRING. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO DO IS COME BACK TO YOU ALL, LOOK AT THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTIONS AND THEN MAKE SOME ANY DECISIONS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR, AS YOU LOOK AT IT, NOT JUST FROM A ONE YEAR PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM A MULTI-YEAR PERSPECTIVE, AND LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED VOTER APPROVAL ON OTHER FACILITY PROJECTS, AS WELL AS OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO PUT ON A FUTURE FUTURE BOND INITIATIVE FOR THE VOTER CONSIDERATION. SO THAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS THAT WE HAVE. AND AGAIN, WE'LL WE'LL BE BACK TO TO YOU ALL VERY SHORTLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO TO START TALKING THROUGH UPDATED FORECASTING AS WELL AS DIFFERENT PLANS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. DAVID, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT REAL QUICK ON BLUE HOLE. I WASN'T HERE FOR THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS, AND I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR, TRIED TO SUMMARIZE, TRIED TO SUMMARIZE, I THINK SOME COMMENTS, BUT SO ON BLUE HOLE PARK, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE RENOVATION OF BLUE HOLE PARK OVERALL. WHAT MY FEELINGS WERE. KEEP IT IN THE BUDGET BEFORE WE DO THAT SELL. I MAY HAVE OTHER FEELINGS AT THE TIME, BUT IN. THE MAIN REASON IS FOR THE OPERATION OF THE PARK. THE. THE. THE WAY THE PARK LOOKS, THE WAY THE PARK FUNCTIONS PHYSICALLY IS ONE THING, BUT THE OPERATIONS ARE A TOTAL DIFFERENT THING. AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A REAL. WE HAVE RULES. WE HAVE NO REAL PLAN TO ENFORCE THE RULES AND HAVE A SOLID OPERATIONAL PLAN FOR BLUE HOLE PARK, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PEAK TIMES. SO MY THOUGHTS ON IT WERE I WAS THINKING ABOUT OTHER AQUATIC BASED PARKS, IF YOU WILL, IN THE REGION. SO NEW BRAUNFELS HAS QUITE A FEW, SAN MARCOS HAS SEVERAL. WIMBERLEY HAS A BLUE HOLE PARK AS WELL, SO NOW THEIR OPERATIONS ARE A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OURS ARE. DON'T GET ME WRONG, SAN MARCOS, NEW BRAUNFELS, IT'S A TOTAL DIFFERENT ANIMAL. GOT PEOPLE FLOATING THE RIVER.HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF OPERATION THAT THEY HAVE AND AND STAFFING AROUND THOSE, AT LEAST DURING THE SEASONAL TIMES, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. NOW, ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING NEAR TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY HAVE. BUT I HAD MY MY HIGHLY PAID ASSISTANT CHATGPT HELPED ME COUNSEL, I'LL GIVE YOU MY REPORT THAT IT PRODUCED FOR ME TO COMPARE THE OPERATIONS OF THOSE DIFFERENT CITIES AND THEIR PARKS, AND HOW WE DO IT HERE BASED ON JUST STAFFING NUMBERS. IT MAKES NO RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST BRINGING UP THE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE HANDLED AND LOOKED AT. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PRIOR TO SELLING THE DEBT ON THIS AND MOVING FORWARD AND MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A PLAN, BUT WE HAVE A PLAN TO FUND THAT OPERATIONAL PLAN AS WELL. AND SO SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO BE WE NEED TO COLLECT MORE DATA AND UNDERSTAND WHO'S USING THE PARK. MOST OF THOSE CITIES NOW CHARGE FOR OUT OF TOWNERS TO COME IN AND USE THE PARK. FROM A COST RECOVERY STANDPOINT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WITH BLUE HOLE WITH THE AMOUNT OF ACCESS THERE. BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE WE COULD DO, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER PLAN TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE RULES THAT WE HAVE THERE TO MAKE. MAKE SURE WHEN WE SPEND 8 MILLION BUCKS TO RENOVATE IT, THE ACTIVITY THAT IS RESULTING AFTER THAT IS THE ACTIVITY THAT WE WANT TO SEE, AND NOT A BUNCH OF ACTIVITY THAT WE DON'T. NEW BRAUNFELS HAD THE SAME ISSUE WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. WE WOULD FLOAT THE RIVER WITH A HUGE COOLER AND SPEAKER AND WHATEVER AND FLOAT ON DOWN. AND NEW BRAUNFELS DECIDED AT SOME POINT THEY WANTED TO BE MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY. AND NOW YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A SIX PACK COOLER SIZE AND YOU CAN HAVE ALUMINUM CANS. AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TAKE SPEAKERS DOWN THERE EITHER. BUT SO YOU GOT TO FLOAT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, JUST FYI, BUT I'LL PASS THESE ON TO YOU GUYS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THAT BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE AND THE MAYOR FAILED TO, I TRIED. I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR REPRESENTING ME WELL. AND WHAT, WHAT WHAT OUR PLAN WAS, IS TO BRING BACK UPDATED DESIGNS FOR BASED ON LAST FEEDBACK AND THE DESIGN TEAM WORKING. AND WE WOULD AT THE SAME TIME BASICALLY COME THROUGH AND SHOW YOU HOW WE CURRENTLY OPERATE. YOU KNOW,
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WHAT DO WE DO TO CLEAN THE PARK UP ON A DAILY BASIS, AS WELL AS WHAT'S OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE, WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM A SEASONALITY. SO THIS SUMMER WAS AN IDEAL SUMMER FOR BLUE HOLE BECAUSE OF THE RAINS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. OTHER SUMMERS HAVE NOT BEEN AS IDEAL IN TERMS OF WATER FLOW. AND SO YOU SEE A LOT OF CHANGES IN USAGE OF BLUE HOLE PARK. GIVEN SOME OF THOSE DYNAMICS, WE CAN ALSO THEN TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO BE MADE, AND HOW THAT MIGHT CHANGE THE USAGE OF THE PARK, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT RULES. YOU KNOW, YOU ALL INSTITUTED A UNIQUE RULE AT BLUE HOLE PARK THAT WE DON'T HAVE AT OTHER PARKS, WHICH IS NOT TO ALLOW FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO BE AT THE BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF PROBLEMS WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING TOO MUCH OF THAT AND, AND CAUSING PROBLEMS AND CREATING UNSAFE SITUATIONS. SO THERE MAY BE OTHER RULES OR OTHER THINGS WE CAN PUT IN PLACE TO HELP, AGAIN, MANAGE THAT FACILITY OR MANAGE THAT AMENITY FOR, FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS POSSIBLE. SO OUR PLAN IS TO COME BACK WITH YOU ALL ON THAT. THAT'S PROBABLY HAS CONNECTION TO, BUT NOT REALLY DRIVEN SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE FUNDING STRATEGY AND THE TIMING OF THE FUNDING STRATEGY. THEY'LL COINCIDE, BUT THEY WON'T BE THE SAME EXACT DISCUSSIONS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, NOW WE'LL MOVE TO OUR LARGEST FUNDS IN THE CITY, OUR ELECTRIC UTILITY AS WELL AS OUR WATER UTILITY. AND SO FOCUSED FIRST ON OUR WATER UTILITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THIS SLIDE IN THE FUTURE JUST TO HELP DIFFERENTIATE THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE WATER ADMINISTRATION IS REALLY EXPENSIVE. IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR WATER PURCHASE IS. SO WE PURCHASE WATER FROM THE BRAZOS RIVER AUTHORITY THAT'S RUN THROUGH THE WATER ADMINISTRATION'S COST CENTER.SO THAT MAKES UP THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THAT, OF THAT EXPENSE. BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, NOT SURPRISINGLY, THE OTHER EXPENSES, MAJOR EXPENSES IN THE WATER UTILITY FROM PLANT MANAGEMENT AND WATER DISTRIBUTION ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE. SO WE CONTINUE TO SEE INVESTMENT IN OUR WATER RESOURCE PLANNING AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT ONGOING MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS EXPANSION OF OUR SYSTEM. SO A BIG PART OF THIS BUDGET IS THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT NEW GROUNDWATER SUPPLY FROM THE CARRIZO WILCOX AQUIFER.
ALSO, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A ONE POSITION BEING PROPOSED FOR COMPLIANCE FOR WITH FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL CODES. AND THEN YOU. I'VE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, BUT THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OF THE BUDGET FOR THE WATER UTILITY FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, AS PROPOSED, IS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO 300 MILLION ON THE WATER SIDE AND THEN WASTEWATER. THESE ARE THOSE TWO WASTEWATER PLANTS, NORTHLANDS PLANT AS WELL AS THREE FORKS PLANT IS IS BUDGETED AND PROJECTED AT 415 MILLION. AND THEN, NOT SURPRISINGLY, MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES. YOU CAN SEE HERE REVENUE OVERALL OF 251 MILLION WATER CHARGES BEING THE LARGEST. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THE SECOND LARGEST OUR IMPACT FEES. AND SO THOSE WERE PROJECTING OUR IMPACT FEES, BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES FOR NEXT YEAR. AND THEN WASTEWATER CHARGES BEING A THIRD LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE. BUT THAT REALLY COINCIDES WITH, AGAIN, OUR LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WITH OUR IMPACT FEES BEING AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL. SO HERE AND WE'VE YOU ALL HAVE REVIEWED THIS AND STARTED THE RATE MAKING PROCESS, BUT THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INCREASES, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE BUDGET BY 13.5 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE YOUR 4% IN THE BASE RATE ON WATER AND AND THEN 14% ON THE VOLUMETRIC RATE. YOU ALL SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT THAT RELATED TO FIXED COST RECOVERY, CHANGING THE PERCENTAGES ON FIXED COST RECOVERY TO ALLOW FOR THE VOLUMETRIC RATE TO PAY FOR MORE THE FIXED COST COVERAGE, A FIXED FIXED COST COVERAGE THAN WE HAVE IN PREVIOUS YEARS. AND THAT'S WHY THE BASE RATE IS ABLE TO BE LOWER. AND THEN WE ALSO THEN HAVE A 12% INCREASE ON WASTEWATER RATES, BOTH THE BASE AND VOLUMETRIC RATE. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE FOR WATER CONSUMPTION AT 600 GALLONS PER MONTH, AND WHAT THE WATER CONSUMPTION COST INCREASE WOULD BE AT TEN 000 PER MONTH, AND NOT SURPRISINGLY, THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, THE LARGEST EXPENSE IS ON ELECTRIC RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. THAT IS PURCHASE POWER PROCURING POWER, WHICH IS WHY OUR HEDGING STRATEGY IS SUCH A CRITICAL PART OF THE OPERATION OF OUR ELECTRIC UTILITY. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW HOW THE REST OF THE EXPENSES OCCUR, BUT YOU CAN SEE ALMOST 80% OF IT. OF THE $123 MILLION PROPOSED BUDGET IS ON PROCURING POWER. WE HAVE CONTINUED STRONG COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER GROWTH, BOTH ON NATIVE LOAD, AS WELL AS JUST AVERAGE BASIC GROWTH OF CUSTOMERS, AS WELL AS GROWTH IN VERY LARGE LOAD CUSTOMERS, LARGE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS THAT ARE COMING, MANUFACTURERS, MANUFACTURERS. WE DO HAVE ENHANCED PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT, AS I MENTIONED, AND CONTINUED
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RISK MITIGATION STRATEGIES AND COST RECOVERY STRATEGIES, WHICH YOU ALL JUST RECENTLY HAVE LOOKED AT. AND WE'VE GOT A RATE ORDINANCE ON THE BUDGET, ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY, WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY OFFERINGS FOR CUSTOMERS, IMPROVE OUR SYSTEM MAINTENANCE, WHICH INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF A NEW FIELD CREW THIS YEAR, WHICH IS PART OF THE 11 STAFF MEMBERS PROPOSED FOR SYSTEM GROWTH AND MAINTENANCE. THE OTHER COMPONENTS OR OTHER POSITIONS ARE REALLY TARGETED ENGINEERING AND COMPLIANCE, AND THEN THE ELECTRIC CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS PLANNED AT 75 MILLION, WHICH 27 MILLION OF THAT IS PROPOSED IN IN ACTUALLY DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS. AND THEN ELECTRIC SALES REVENUE, YOU CAN SEE MAKES UP A LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUE IN, IN THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, WITH OPERATING REVENUE OF 181 MILLION AND DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS BEING THE SECOND LARGEST. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE OUR ELECTRIC SERVICE CHARGES 120 MILLION AND THE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS AT 27 MILLION.AND WE CONTINUE TO SELL RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, THOSE THE VALUE OF THOSE CREDITS KIND OF GO UP AND DOWN WITH THE MARKET. AND WE'RE OBVIOUSLY DOING OUR BEST TO SELL THOSE AT A HIGH AS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL POSSIBLE, WHICH OUR BUDGET KIND OF FORECASTS AT 1.4 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR. HEY, DAVID, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST STARTED THE CONSERVATION THROUGH THE ELECTRIC LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IS WHENEVER WE ESTABLISHED THAT AS OR WE CHANGED THE AMOUNT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE. BUT LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE EXPENSE SIDE. DO YOU KNOW IF DO WE HAVE I GUESS IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY READY TO PROMOTE A LOT AT THIS POINT? IT'S NOT BUILT UP ENOUGH TO PAY OUT. IT'S MORE EDUCATED. IT'S YEAH, A LOT OF EDUCATION AT THIS POINT. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO YOU SEE US HAVING THAT A DIFFERENT BOOST STATE OF THE CITY AND OTHER THINGS TO HELP EDUCATE PEOPLE JUST ON WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN DO CONSERVATION THROUGH SIMPLE THINGS AT THEIR HOMES. BUT YEAH, WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO ROLL OUT MORE REBATE PROGRAMS AS A PART OF OUR PROGRAM. OKAY. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO SOLID WASTE. SO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH TDS AND THEIR ANNUAL INCREASES DUE TO INFLATION AND ADDED CUSTOMERS. BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ALSO WORKED ON ESTABLISHING ALL THE DIFFERENT POLICIES, REGULAR POLICIES AS A UTILITY FUND FOR THE SOLID WASTE FUND. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE DO HAVE PILOT AND FRANCHISE FEES PROGRAMED IN, JUST LIKE WE DO AS PART OF OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES WITH ALL OF OUR UTILITIES. AND THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE IS FULLY FUNDED, AND OUR CONTINGENCY CONTINGENCY RESERVE IS AT 670,000 AND INCREASED IT, BRINGING IT TO 1.2 MILLION. SO WE'RE SLOWLY WORKING TO GET TO THE TARGETED LEVEL OF 5 MILLION BY 2031. BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO MANAGE THE RATE INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOLID WASTE FUND. SO WE WANT TO GROW THAT OVER TIME. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASES ARE 5% ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, 8% ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. AND THAT'S BASED ON THE COST RECOVERY PLAN THAT WE HAVE AND STUDY. WE PUT IN PLACE. STORMWATER WENT THROUGH A COST OF SERVICE RATE MODEL STUDY. THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROPOSING A $1.50 INCREASE TO THE RESIDENTIAL RATE. THAT'S $8, INCREASING IT TO $8 PER MONTH, AND THEN $15 INCREASE FOR COMMERCIAL TO 8080 PER MONTH. THIS ALLOWS FOR US TO FOLLOW MOST OF OUR POLICIES RELATED TO UTILITIES. IT ALSO INCREASES DOLLARS FOR STAFFING AS WELL AS FOR SYSTEM MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. YOU CAN SEE THE DEBT SERVICE IS FULLY RESERVED, FULLY FUNDED AS WELL. AS WE'RE WORKING TO GROW OUR CONTINGENCY CONTINGENCY RESERVES AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVELS, SIMILAR TO THE SOLID WASTE FUND. I MENTIONED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR. WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT IT ALL LISTED OUT. WE'VE REVIEWED THAT WITH YOU THROUGH THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS ALREADY. AND SO, SO THAT INFORMATION IS IN THE FULL BUDGET DOCUMENT FOR ADDITIONAL REVIEW, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT. AND IT INCLUDES OBVIOUSLY PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED, DEBT RATE, FEE SUPPORTED, SUPPORTED CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS SALES TAX SUPPORTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THE FOUR A AND FOUR B CORPORATIONS, JEFFCO AND GTEC. THIS IS A LISTING OF ALL THE DIFFERENT. CIP PROPOSED PLANS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, AS WELL AS AN OUTLOOK GOING OUT TO 2038. YOU CAN SEE IT IS LUMPY AND IT'S LUMPY FOR A REASON, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LARGE WATER PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR FOR 2027 WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS. BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THAT THEN SCALES BACK SIGNIFICANTLY AFTER THAT TIME. 2028 IS STILL LARGE ON THE WATER SIDE, BASED ON WATER ACQUISITION THAT WE'RE PLANNING, AS WELL AS ELECTRIC CONTINUES TO BE LARGE BASED ON SOME FACILITY PLANNING THAT WE'RE DOING IN ELECTRIC, WHICH IS PART OF OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN, AS WELL AS JUST SOME GROWTH IN TERMS OF PLANT BASED ON LARGE, CONTINUED LARGE CUSTOMER GROWTH. WE ALSO HAVE. SO HERE'S OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. SOME OF THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS WHICH I
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LISTED OUT EARLIER, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT THOSE FACILITY PROJECTS ARE, WHICH IS OUR YMCA PARTNERSHIP CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER, AS WELL AS ANIMAL SHELTER AND BLUE HOLE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IN THE TRANSPORTATION AREA WITH, WITH VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT. WE ALSO HAVE TRANSPORTATION AT 29 MILLION. THAT'S INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS AS WELL AS THE RIDGELINE BOULEVARD EXTENSION THAT IS BASICALLY ALLOWING RIDGELINE BOULEVARD TO CONNECT TO 1460, WHICH IS IMPORTANT CONNECTION FOR US BEFORE, AS WE'RE DOING THE INNER LOOP SOUTHEAST INNER LOOP IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE HERE, THEN OTHER FLEET PURCHASES TOTALING ALL OF THAT TOTALING 51 MILLION. AND AGAIN, TALKED ABOUT REVISITING THIS PLAN IN THE FALL AS WE'RE UPDATING OUR PROJECTIONS RELATED TO KIND OF THE UPDATED APPRAISALS AND LOWER BASIC LOWER APPRAISALS THAN WE PROJECTED EARLIER. AND IN OUR LONG TERM MODELING. YOU CAN SEE HERE THEN HOW MUCH CASH FUNDING IS HAPPENING THROUGH THE WATER UTILITY, AS WELL AS OUR IMPACT FEE FEES BEING APPLIED TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, OUR REVENUE BONDS. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE SWIFT FIRST TRANCHE OF THE SWIFT FUNDING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THE APPROVAL FOR FROM THE STATE. AND THEN ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, YOU CAN SEE HERE IMPACT FEE REVENUE BEING APPLIED TO THE PROJECTS AND WHICH PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE REVENUE BONDS AND THE DIFFERENT TREATMENT PLANS THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND THE TOTALING OF OVERALL OF THAT CIP PLAN. AND THEN HERE'S THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, WHERE THE MAJORITY IS THROUGH REVENUE BONDS DO HAVE CASH FUNDING. AND YOU SEE HERE THE DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WHICH A LOT OF WHICH IS NEW DEVELOPMENT RELATED, AS WELL AS A KIND OF FIRST LINE OF FUNDING FOR A NEW ELECTRIC UTILITY OPERATIONS CENTER. AND THEN THIS IS G-TECH. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FOR WOLF RANCH PARKWAY, AUSTIN AVENUE, AND THEN THIS IS THE PART OF THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT AND THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING OF $8 MILLION FOR THE SOUTHWESTERN 560 PROJECT. A FEW OTHER BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON ON COMPENSATION. SO WE HAVE PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET AN AVERAGE MERIT PAY OF 3%. SO THAT'S BASED ON OUR MERIT BASED SYSTEM, WHICH IS BASED ON YOUR RATING ON YOUR EMPLOYEE EVALUATION. YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT THE COST OF THAT FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION IS EXCEPT FOR A CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES.WE DO ALSO HAVE MARKET REVIEW THAT WE'VE DONE FOR CITY STAFF FOR NON-CIVIL SERVICE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FOR CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES. YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THAT COST BASED ON THE MARKET COMPARISONS, YOU CAN SEE ALMOST 6% INCREASE FOR POLICE ON AVERAGE AND 5.4% INCREASE FOR FIRE ON AVERAGE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT RANKS, AS WELL AS THEN THEIR STEP PLAN BEING FUNDED AS WE HAVE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, AND DEPENDING UPON WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR STEP ON ON THE RANGE, THEY'LL GET BETWEEN A TWO AND A 5% STEP INCREASE. AND THEN WE ALSO PROPOSED TO HAVE THE CITY CONTRIBUTE TO THE INCREASE IN IN THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE HEALTH, THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND, THEIR HEALTHY RESERVE LEVELS, OUR PROPOSALS NOT TO HAVE EMPLOYEES CONTRIBUTE INTO THIS, INTO THIS SIDE, SO NOT HAVE PREMIUM INCREASES, BUT HAVE THE CITY PICK UP THE INSURANCE INCREASES NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND. SOME OF THE OTHER HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, WE ARE DOING THE DESIGN AND WE'LL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER. WE HAVE $7 MILLION FOR STREET MAINTENANCE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. IS THE THE AUTHORIZATION TO OR TO ORDER THE ELECTION FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION TO REAUTHORIZE, GET THE VOTERS TO REAUTHORIZE THE STREET MAINTENANCE SALES TAX, WHICH IS QUARTER CENT SALES TAX. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO COST OF SERVICE STUDIES FOR THESE DIFFERENT FUNDS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR PLANS RELATED TO THAT MULTI-YEAR COST OF SERVICE STUDY. HERE ARE THE POSITIONS OVERALL THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. AT 39.5 POSITIONS. WE HAVE ONE POSITION IN MUNICIPAL COURT REALLY DUE TO THE INCREASED ACTIVITY COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC. WE HAVE TWO IN PUBLIC WORKS. THOSE ARE SHARED FUNDING POSITIONS.
ONE IS AN ADMIN POSITION, THE OTHER ONE IS A WHICH DO NOT HAVE AN ADMIN IN ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS. AND THE SECOND ONE IS A IS ACTUALLY FOR A PROJECT MANAGER FOR VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT WE HAVE. JENNIFER BETTIOL DOES A GREAT JOB, BUT IT IS WELL BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF ONE PERSON TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THE DIFFERENT VERTICAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR ORGANIZATION. AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE ON THE JOINT SERVICES SIDE FOR AN ACCOUNTING. THIS IS REALLY DUE TO TURNOVER THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN ACCOUNTING AND A MAJOR WORKLOAD INCREASES WITHOUT REALLY HAVING HAVING A STAFFING PLAN TO SUPPORT THAT
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SIMILAR STORY IN PURCHASING AS WELL. ONE POSITION IN THE SYSTEM ENGINEERING, JUST BASED ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WORK THAT'S HAPPENING, AS WELL AS REAL ESTATE SERVICES, AGAIN, TIED TO EASEMENT ACQUISITION, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. IT'S ALL TIED TO OUR LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY. ON THE ELECTRIC OPERATIONS SIDE, THERE'S 11 EMPLOYEES, ONE IN OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY, ONE IN ELECTRIC ADMINISTRATION FOREIGN SERVICES.THOSE ARE THAT'S THE NEW FIELD CREW, ONE IN SYSTEM OPERATIONS, FOUR IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING, FOUR IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING, REALLY GEARED TOWARDS SYSTEM DESIGN AS WELL AS QUALITY OF POWER. AND THAT'S NECESSARY BASED ON THE LARGE LOADS THAT ARE COMING TO GEORGETOWN AND US MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MANAGING THOSE ACCOUNTS WELL. WE HAVE THE ONE POSITION OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY AND WATER FOR POSITIONS AND STORMWATER. THAT'S ONE FOR REGULATORY, FOR INSPECTION AND COMPLIANCE FOR OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM, AND THREE IN OPERATIONS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH MAINTAINING OUR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE A HALF POSITION IN TOURISM. THIS IS IN OUR ARTS CENTER BASED ON GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR ARTS CENTER. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS IN IT REALLY RELATED TO SYSTEM SUPPORT. AND THEN AND THAT OVERALL, WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT UP, IT GETS TO 39.5 POSITIONS. I WILL NOT REPEAT MYSELF WITH THE KEY THEMES. THEY STILL WERE THE SAME AS WHEN I STARTED THIS PRESENTATION AND GETTING TO NEXT STEPS. SO THE NEXT STEP IS WE'RE HERE TODAY ON AUGUST 11TH.
DURING YOUR REGULAR MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET HERE. WE HAVE THIS RIGHT NOW. THEN YOU'LL BE SETTING THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE, AS WELL AS SETTING THE DATES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. FOR THE TAX RATE, WE'LL HAVE ALL THE REQUIRED NOTICES IN INTERNET, TELEVISION, NEWSPAPER THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR LEGALLY REQUIRED FOR THE BUDGET ADOPTION. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ON AUGUST 26TH, WE'LL START PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET. THE TAX RATE WILL HAVE FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET, AS WELL AS FIRST READING, THE TAX RATE AS WELL AS ANY ASSOCIATED FEES AND RATES. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE SECOND READINGS ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. AND THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR TO START OCTOBER 1ST WITH THE NEW BUDGET. WE HAVE DONE MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF PUBLIC OUTREACH AS WELL. AS YOU KNOW, WE CONSIDER ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH WE DO PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AS A PART OF BUILDING AN OVERALL SET OF PRIORITIES FOR THE BUDGET. YOU CAN SEE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE BUDGET HERE, AS WELL AS, AGAIN, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE AND THE ADOPTED BUDGET BOOK, WHICH IS ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE, AS WELL AS OTHER LOCATIONS WHICH PEOPLE CAN GIVE FEEDBACK ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE. WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR DAVID DAVID ON THE. I LIKE TO BREAK OUT SHOWING THE IMPACT FEE USAGE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET FROM WHAT WAS COLLECTED LAST YEAR. WE'RE PROJECTING FOR THIS YEAR AND THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEES, AT LEAST FOR WATER, DO WE KNOW IS. I'M ASSUMING THERE'S MORE IN THERE. ARE WE HOLDING THAT BACK TO PAY FOR IT? BECAUSE I KNOW IT CAN BE USED ALSO FOR DEBT SERVICE AS WELL AS BASICALLY EQUITY. IF YOU OR CASH INJECTION INTO A A PROJECT. BUT WE'RE NOW SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE FUNDING MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE COLLECTED IMPACT FEES ON OR ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE USAGE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO 8% OF THE TOTAL FUNDING FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FROM WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES, IS THERE A WAY TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER? SO IT'S NOT AS MUCH ON THE DEBT SIDE AND IT'S MORE ON THE DEVELOPER SIDE OR I MEAN, ARE WE I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR RATIONALE IS AND HOW WE HOW WE DECIDE HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SURE, SURE. SO, SO I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE CONSERVATIVE IN TERMS OF HOW WE APPLY THE IMPACT FEES, BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS ASSUME WHAT THE IMPACT FEES WILL BE NEXT YEAR, AND THEN ASSUME THE APPLICATION OF THOSE FOR THE NEXT YEAR. AND THOSE REVENUES NOT COME IN EXACTLY THE WAY THEY SHOULD. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT US APPLYING THOSE IMPACT FEES IN A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THERE ARE DOLLARS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ALREADY. SO IT DOESN'T CORRESPOND LIKE THE BUDGET WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT THIS AMOUNT OF SALES TAX NEXT YEAR. HERE'S HOW OUR PLAN IS TO SPEND IT. WE'RE MORE CONSERVATIVE IN OUR IMPACT FEES WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. WE DO LOOK AT IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS. AND THEN OUR TARGETING THE BASICALLY REVENUE THAT WE HAVE AND TYING TO THOSE PROJECTS. AND IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A REALLY GOOD TIE OFF, WE APPLY THOSE TO THE PROJECTS AND EXPEND THEM BASICALLY AS THE PROJECTS OCCURRING. SO WHAT WE CAN DO AND FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE IT IN FUTURE BUDGET DOCUMENTS. WE HAVE A TRACKING SHEET TO SHOW YOU. HERE'S THE HERE'S THE REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVED ON IMPACT FEES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND THEN HERE ARE THE PROJECTS IN WHICH WHERE THEY'RE BEING APPLIED, NOT ONLY HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPLIED, AND THEN WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE APPLIED IN THE FUTURE. WE ALL DO. WHEN WE DO THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY WE LOOKED AT,
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YOU'LL RECALL DURING THAT PRESENTATION, WE IDENTIFIED $1.7 BILLION WORTH OF WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE OVER THE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. AND I THINK 1.2 BILLION OF THAT IS IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO NOT EVERY NOT OUR FULL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BECAUSE A LOT OF IT SYSTEM MAINTENANCE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO IT'S ONLY THE THINGS THAT ARE. BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A GAUGE OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE ANTICIPATE $1.2 BILLION WORTH OF IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS, AND WE ANTICIPATE $251 MILLION WORTH OF IMPACT FEES. THAT'S OUR PROJECTIONS BASED ON GROWTH. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT ACTUALLY PLAYS ITSELF OUT. BUT HOPEFULLY THAT EXPLAINS HOW WE'RE TARGETING THOSE DOLLARS TOWARDS DIFFERENT PROJECTS. NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE AND THE PRESENTATION HAVING THE IMPACT FEES BROKEN OUT LIKE THAT, I THINK IS HELPFUL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR ABOUT FROM RESIDENTS FROM TIME TO TIME ABOUT WE SHOULD CHARGE IMPACT FEES, WE SHOULD MAKE DEVELOPERS PAY WELL, WE DO. BUT HAVING THE INFORMATION IN A MORE DIGESTIBLE FORMAT THAT NOT ONLY PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND, BUT SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND, SO WE CAN ARTICULATE THAT TO FOLKS. AND YEAH, IT IS. WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THIS MUCH THIS YEAR, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.THE DEVELOPER IS PAYING FOR IT. SO JUST, I GUESS, AND I THINK, SORRY, INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD. EVEN FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN THE GROUNDBREAKING OF THE RIBBON CUTTING, EXCUSE ME, OF THE SOUTHLAKE TREATMENT PLANT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE DIRECT COST ON THAT WAS 275 MILLION. IF YOU LOOK AT INDIRECT, IT'S OVER 300 MILLION AND OVER 60 MILLION OF THAT WAS IMPACT FEES. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD I THINK WE SHOULD BE COMMUNICATING THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OPENING OF THE THE PLANT 100%. I AGREE. I JUST THINK HIGHLIGHTING THAT MORE AND HOW WE'RE USING IT. SO IT'S MORE MAKES PEOPLE MORE AWARE. SO THANK YOU DAVID. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. LET'S START ON. GO AHEAD. THANKS, DAVID, FOR THE PRESENTATION. JUST A COUPLE, I GUESS, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION. ONE, IN THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC, ARE THERE ANY KEY THEMES OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OR HAPPY ABOUT OR WANT US TO DO DIFFERENTLY OTHER THAN ROADS? I WOULD SAY EVERYBODY WANTS US TO GET THE ROADS MOVING QUICKER. NO, I WOULD JUST I WOULD GO BACK TO OUR CITIZEN SURVEY, WHICH IS WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR THEMES WERE WERE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC SPECIFICALLY, AND THEN JUST GENERAL CONCERNS ABOUT GROWTH. AND I KNOW THAT I WOULD SAY 90, 90 PLUS PERCENT OF WHAT YOU ALL, AS A BODY FOCUS ON WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WORK THROUGH MUD APPLICATIONS TO PLANNING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALL REALLY FOCUSED ON, ON GROWTH WITHIN, WITHIN THE LIMITS OF YOUR CONTROL BASED ON STATE LAW. OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON THAT, THAT STUDY THAT WE DID, THEN WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS THROUGH THE BUDGET.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FEEDBACK WHERE WE ACTUALLY, YOU RECALL, WE ACTUALLY ASKED PEOPLE TO PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW, SERVICES RANKED SERVICES, WHERE WE SPEND OUR DOLLARS IN PUBLIC SAFETY CONTINUES TO BE PRIORITIZED. SO THAT'S WHY AND, AND, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS CONSISTENT WITH LAST YEAR'S BUDGET IN TERMS OF THE LARGEST EXPENDITURE OUTLAY IN INCREASE OVERALL AS A PERCENTAGE IN THE BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND IS ON PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING IS I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SAW OUR BUDGET IN GEORGETOWN, WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE LITTLE GEORGETOWN CREEP UP TO THE BILLION DOLLAR MARK LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S HUMAN NATURE THAT PEOPLE WOULD COMPARE OUR PEER CITIES BECAUSE WE DO THAT A LOT. AND THEY LOOK AT, WELL, ROUND ROCK AND CEDAR PARK AND THOSE THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I SEE THE 1.6 BILLION OF WHICH 903 MILLION IS IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT. WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S FAIR THAT THOSE CITIES ARE NOT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAME SITUATION WE ARE BASED ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO US HAVING A WATER AND ELECTRIC UTILITY AS WELL? YES.
EVERY EVERY CITY IS UNIQUE. IT'S IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO COMPARE GENERAL FUND BUDGETS OR OVERALL BUDGETS. AND YOU JUST MENTIONED SEVERAL OF THE FACTORS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE ROUND ROCK AND CEDAR PARK DID NOT HAVE AN AIRPORT. THEY DON'T HAVE ELECTRIC UTILITY. THEY DO NOT HAVE WATER UTILITY. THAT'S 400MIā !S. THEY AREN'T THE FASTE. THEY'VE BEEN THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTRY MULTIPLE YEARS IN A ROW. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT GO INTO THEY DON'T HAVE A LAKE. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF FACTORS THAT GO GO INTO DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, DIFFERENT WAYS WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. AND AND SO THOSE ARE ALL DIFFERENT VARIABLES. I HIGHLIGHT THIS SLIDE. I WENT BACK TO THIS SLIDE JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL BE INTERESTING AS YOU LOOK AT NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE OUR OVERALL PLAN, IT'S STILL A PRETTY STRONG CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY THAN FOR 2028 THAN WHAT WE HAD PLANNED IN 2027. AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO AND THEN YOU LOOK FURTHER OUT AFTER THAT AND IT'S, AND IT'S LOWER. SO, BUT THE POINT OF THAT IS, AND THAT'S WHY WE HIGHLIGHT THE BUDGET AND TALK ABOUT A $1.6 BILLION BUDGET,
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SAY THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS. THE OPERATING BUDGET IS, IS, IS MUCH LOWER THAN THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE HOPEFULLY LISTENING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR CITIES ARE NOT THE SAME. AND THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS OF WHY, WHY OUR BUDGET MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF OUR PEER CITIES.SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OUR TAX RATES ARE DIFFERENT TOO, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THANK YOU. JOSH. I'VE GOT TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS JUST AN EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND ENERGY THAT STAFF HAS PUT IN TO BRINGING FORWARD A BUDGET WITH WHICH THEY HAVE TO LIVE ONCE IT'S APPROVED, AND IT BEGINS ON OCTOBER THE 1ST, I THINK THE PRESENTATION COVERS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROUNDS. AND THE SECOND THING I WANT TO MENTION DOES NOT NECESSARILY RELATE TO THIS BUDGET, BUT IT RELATES TO ACTUAL FACTS. I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO DAYS AGO THAT WE TREATED 48 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. WHEN PEOPLE ARE IRRIGATING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT TWO YEARS AGO, WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT BECAUSE WE COULD ONLY TREAT 45 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE. OUR RESIDENTS CAN STILL TAKE CARE OF THEIR HOUSES AND THEIR YARDS. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A IT CAN REALLY EASILY GET OVERLOOKED. WHAT IMPACT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS HAVE HAD ON OUR CITY? AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT. AND I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT WE'RE EXCITED TO OPEN UP ONE SECTION OF THE DB WOOD EXPANSION AND PEOPLE DRIVE ON THAT CAN SEE IT. AND, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND I WERE HEADING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY AND SHE SAID, THIS ROAD'S REALLY NICE. YOU DON'T TURN YOUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM ON OR YOUR FAUCET ON.
YOU GO, WOW, THAT SALT LAKE TREATMENT PLANT IS REALLY NICE. BUT BUT IT IS A REALLY KEY INFRASTRUCTURE, KEY INVESTMENT. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT PEAK DEMAND OF 48 MILLION GALLONS IN ONE DAY. ALSO, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE WE WERE WE WERE BELOW 70% CAPACITY OF OUR WATER SYSTEM TREATMENT CAPACITY AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHEN WE WERE WHEN WE WERE SEEING OVER 40 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, 45 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF DEMAND ON OUR SYSTEM. WE WERE RUNNING OUR PLANTS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 100% CAPACITY OR SOMETIMES OVER 100% CAPACITY, WHICH YOU ALL JUST THINK ABOUT RUNNING YOUR CAR, YOU KNOW, 6000 RPMS ON A CONSTANT BASIS. SO THE, THE, THE MARGIN OF ERROR FOR FAILURE AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC WITH OUR WATER SYSTEM IS, IS REAL. IT JUST GOES TO THE, THE PROFESSIONALISM OF OUR OPERATORS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THAT SYSTEM THE WAY THAT WE HAVE. SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT BUFFER. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE MORE ROBUST TREATMENT PLANT. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GO BE. WE DON'T NEED TO STILL FOCUS ON ADDITIONAL WATER AND WATER RESOURCES FOR GEORGETOWN LONG TERM STARTING IN 2030, 2031. BUT BUT MY HOPE IS, IS THAT WE WILL HAVE YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE PROJECTS AS THEY'RE COMPLETED, LIKE SHELL ROAD. YOU KNOW, SOUTHEASTERN LOOP WILL BE A MAJOR PROJECT WHERE PEOPLE WILL SEE THE IMPACT OF THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING PUT TO USE AND BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY. AND ALSO, I WAS GOING TO SAY IT AT THE VERY END, BUT WE'LL SAY IT NOW TOO. YEAH. AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF, NOT ONLY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THEY DO EVERY DAY, BUT FOR PUTTING THIS PLAN TOGETHER AND THIS BUDGET TOGETHER, SPECIFICALLY OUR FINANCE TEAM AND ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
BUT OBVIOUSLY ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS PUTTING WELL THOUGHT OUT BUDGETS AND THEN MANAGING THOSE BUDGETS, KNOWING THEIR NUMBERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR FOR ALL THOSE DOLLARS. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE OUR THANKS TO THE ENTIRE STAFF AND APPRECIATE YOU, DAVID.
THANK YOU. LET'S TAKE I THINK ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET
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STARTED WITHOUT DAVID. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON ON AN UPDATE FOR THE GTI PROGRAM. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST THAT THE PROGRAM WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS MEETING THE COUNCIL GOALS. AND THEN AS WE LOOK THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, IS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE GTI SERVICES FOR FY 27? AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH SOME COST SAVINGS, JUST IF WE'VE MISSED SOMETHING, IF COUNCIL HAS ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL ON THE AGENDA, I'LL QUICKLY GO OVER THE BACKGROUND OF THE TRANSIT PROGRAM. WE'LL LOOK AT THE GO GEO AND TRANSITION. TRANSITION. EXCUSE ME. TRANSITIONING THE GO[01:05:01]
GEO RIDERS OVER TO THE RIGHT GTI PROGRAM. RIGHT GTI RIDERSHIP PROGRAM COSTS, AND THEN SOME OF THE SERVICE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. SO HERE'S THE HISTORY BEGAN KIND OF IN 2008, IS KIND OF WHEN THE CITY LOOKED AT IT BACK THEN, WE WERE CONSIDERED RURAL IN 2008. AND AS WE MOVE, MOVE FORWARD, NOW WE'RE MORE URBAN, OBVIOUSLY. AND THEN WE LAUNCHED THE GO GEO PROGRAM BACK IN OR SORRY. YEAH, THE GO GEO PROGRAM, LIMITED PARATRANSIT SERVICES BACK IN 21. AND THEN WE ADDED THE SENIOR SERVICES IN 2022. WE THEN DID AN UPDATE WITH CAPMETRO ON THE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THEN WE LAUNCHED THE GTI PROGRAM IN 2025. SO JUST LOOKING AT THE GOALS OR WHAT THE PURPOSE IS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC TRANSIT EXISTS TO PROVIDE SAFE, RELIABLE, ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION THAT CONNECTS PEOPLE TO ESSENTIAL DESTINATION, IMPROVES MOBILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE, SUPPORTS ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND ENSURES THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THOSE WHO CANNOT OR CHOOSE NOT TO DRIVE, HAVE ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES AND SERVICES AS PART OF THE.THE. WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE UPDATE FOR THE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE RIDER PROFILES OF WHO'S USES PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT AN ON DEMAND SERVICE. WE ALSO LOOKED AT RELOOKED AT OUR LIMITED PARATRANSIT SENIOR SERVICE EXPRESS ROUTE, AND THEN THE RIDESHARE RIDE HAILING VOUCHER PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE. AND THIS JUST SHOWS KIND OF HOW THOSE WHAT EACH SERVICE KIND OF FILTERS OUT. SO THE ON DEMAND IS, PROVIDES KIND OF THAT DOWNTOWN PEOPLE LOOKING TO GO TO LUNCH, SCHOOL OR WORK, LIMITED PARATRANSIT SERVICES FOR, FOR APPOINTMENTS, GROCERY STORES AND THAT TYPE OF THING. THEN YOUR EXPRESS ROUTE IS MORE YOUR REGIONAL MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS OR WORK COMMUTE DOWN TO LIKE CITY OF AUSTIN ALSO LOOKED AT THE RIDE HAILING, WHICH PRETTY MUCH PROVIDES A LOT OF THESE SERVICES EXCEPT FOR KIND OF THAT REGIONAL PROVIDING SERVICES DOWN TO LIKE AUSTIN AND THOSE TYPE OF PLACES. SO JUST REVIEWING SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WE HAVE THE GO GO PROGRAM, WHICH IS A SENIOR SERVICES, WHICH IS 65 AND UP AND LIMITED PARATRANSIT. IT'S $2 PER TRIP. THAT SERVICE RUNS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AND THEN THE VOUCHER PROGRAM AND WAIVE IS IS FOR RIDE SHARING AND WHEELCHAIR ACCESS VEHICLES. FOR THE VOUCHER, RIDERS PAY THE FIRST $4 VOUCHER COVERS UP TO THE NEXT $10, AND ANYTHING OVER THAT $14, THE RIDERS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING. THE VOUCHER IS LIMITED TO TEN PER MONTH, AND THEN THE WAVE TO MEET TITLE TWO DOES NOT HAVE A LIMIT. THE SERVICE IS 24 HOURS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. JUST LOOKING AT OUR GO GO RIDERSHIP, YOU KNOW, IT DOES PROVIDE ABOUT 1.2 TRIPS PER HOUR. AND IN 20 FY 25, WE PROVIDED OVER 5400 TOTAL TRIPS, WITH 518 OF THOSE BEING WAIVED. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SITTING AT A LITTLE OVER 4500 TOTAL TRIPS WITH, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 400 OF THOSE BEING WAVE TRIPS COMES OUT TO ABOUT 500 TRIPS PER MONTH. IS, IS WHAT THE GOGO SERVICES PROVIDING. IN THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP 2026 COUNCIL GAVE THE DIRECTION TO END THE GOGO LIMITED PARATRANSIT SERVICES AT THE END OF FY 26 AND ENCOURAGE USERS TO SHIFT OVER TO THE RIDESHARE AND WAVE OPTION. SOME OF THOSE OUTREACHES THAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE SENT OUT POSTCARDS TO ALL THE KNOWN ADDRESSES. WE STARTED SENDING THOSE OUT IN MAY, JUST GIVING THEM A HEADS UP. AND THEN AGAIN IN JULY. WE'VE ALSO USED THE AUTOMATED CALL SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WARNS PEOPLE ABOUT WEATHER SERVICES, FLOODING AND SUCH LIKE THAT. THEN WE SENT OUT WE'VE DONE OUTREACH TO SOME OF THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES. WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH SOME OF THE NONPROFIT PARTNERS, GEORGETOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ROUNDTABLE, AND WE ALSO INCLUDED FLIERS ON THE GO GEO SHUTTLES. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THE RIDERSHIP. I INCLUDED THIS BLACK LINE ON THIS PRESENTATION WHEN WE CAME IN IN FEBRUARY. THIS IS HOW MUCH DATA WE HAD FOR THIS FY. SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE DOLLARS AND THAT RIDERSHIP KIND OF THE SEPARATION OF WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO CURRENTLY FOR THE NINE MONTHS WE'VE PROVIDED ABOUT CLOSE TO 21,900 TOTAL TRIPS WITH 709 OF THOSE BEING WAVE TRIPS. AND WE'RE SEEING ABOUT 109 USERS MAXED OUT THEIR VOUCHERS, WHICH IS A LITTLE LESS THAN 5%. SOME OF THE
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RIDERSHIP INFORMATION, TIME OF DAY, DAY OF THE WEEK THAT WE HAVE HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DAY OF THE WEEK, IT'S PRETTY EVEN EVENLY SPLIT PIE CHART. AND THEN TIME OF DAY, YOU KIND OF SEE THAT THAT HEAVY USE BETWEEN 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. WHERE IT ACCOUNTS FOR OVER 75% OF THE TRIPS, AND THEN THE WAVE, IT'S LESS THAN 2% OF THOSE WAVE TRIPS ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AGAIN, GOING OVER THE COST WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT COSTS FOR FOR FY 26, LOOKING OVER THOSE THREE MONTHS, PROJECTING IT OUT, WE'VE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED THE COST FOR FOR THE PROGRAM AS IT'S BEEN VERY POPULAR. WE'VE SEEN ABOUT A 54% GROWTH BETWEEN OCTOBER TO JUNE. TRIP COSTS OR THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROGRAM FOR THAT NINE MONTHS IS ABOUT 384,000. AND THEN JUST PROJECTING THAT NUMBER OUT FOR JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER VOUCHER COSTS COME OUT TO ABOUT $7.22, ROUGHLY PER PER VOUCHER TRIP. THE WAVE COSTS ABOUT 6644. AND THEN AGAIN, THERE'S THAT AFTER HOURS COST, WHICH IS ABOUT 550 PER DAY. SO PROJECTING OUT THE FY 26 IS HOW WE GOT TO THAT $542,000 NUMBER. AS WE KIND OF LOOK INTO SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, WE WANT TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RIDERSHIP, RIDERSHIP ASSUMPTIONS. WE DO KNOW THE NUMBER OF TRIPS PROVIDED BY GOGO, TOTAL NUMBER OF WAVE TRIPS, OR ACTUALLY WHEELCHAIR TRIPS. AND THEN WE WE KNOW THE ORIGIN AND DESTINATION OF GOGO AND ALSO THE RIGT, SOME OF THE VARIABILITIES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT OR WE UNKNOWNS THAT WE WERE NOT QUITE SURE OF IS THE GOGO. IF YOU'RE 65 AND OLDER AND YOU HAVE A WHEELCHAIR, NOT A WHEELCHAIR, BUT LIKE A CANE OR A WALKER, THOSE DRIVERS AREN'T THOSE RIDERS AREN'T TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED A WAVE TRIP, SO THE WAVE TRIPS MIGHT BE A LITTLE OFF. AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE GOGO RIDERS THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN A WHEELCHAIR, BUT THEY MIGHT NEED A WAVE VEHICLE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. WE ALSO DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF TOTAL TRIPS THAT MIGHT CONVERT OVER TO RIGT, AND THEN JUST RIGHT GHT TRIPS THAT HAVE NOT STABILIZED YET. YOU'VE SEEN JUST LOOKING AT IT, PROJECTING FORWARD. I'VE EVEN REACHED OUT TO TO PFLUGERVILLE. THEY STARTED THEIR THEIR SAME PROGRAM BACK IN FY 23, AND THEIR TRIPS JUST DOUBLED THIS YEAR. SO TALK WITH THEM. THEIR TRIPS HAVE NOT STABILIZED OVER THREE YEARS. SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS KIND OF PROJECTING IT FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WE ALSO DON'T KNOW THE DEMAND OF TOTAL TRIPS IN THE ETJ. RIGHT NOW, THE GOGO IS THE 65 AND OLDER PER LIMITED TRANSIT. ONE OF THE POWERPOINTS WE HAVE ON HERE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT ADDING IN THE ETJ WHAT THAT COST LOOKS LIKE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY VOUCHER TRIPS OR HOW MANY MORE WAVE TRIPS MIGHT BE JOINED ONTO THAT PROGRAM. SO OUR NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE LOW. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TOTAL COST IS, IS IF WE OPEN IT UP TO ALL USERS. SO LOOKING AT THE PROJECTED COSTS FOR FY 27, AGAIN THE CRITERIA IS NOT CHANGING THE SERVICE HOURS. SO IT WOULD BE A 24 OVER SEVEN. ADDING IN THE EXISTING GOGO RIDERS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. NO GROWTH IN GOGURYEO TRIPS AND THEN NO CHANGE TO THE COST STRUCTURE. SO THE COST STRUCTURE WOULD REMAIN THAT $4 FOR THE FIRST PART OF IT. THEN YOU THE VOUCHER COVERS THE NEXT TEN AND THEN YOU PAY ANYTHING OVER THAT. 14. THE WAVE COST WOULD JUST BE THE FLAT $4 FEE. THIS RESULTED IN ABOUT 400 NON WAVE TRIPS PER MONTH. AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE WAVE TRIPS. IT'S JUST AS GOGO HAS RECORDED THOSE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A WHEELCHAIR TRIP, BUT THERE MIGHT BE MORE TRIPS AS PART OF THAT 400 THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY NEED A WAVE TRIP. THERE'S 42 ACTUAL WHEELCHAIR RECORDED WHEELCHAIR TRIPS PER MONTH. COMES OUT TO ABOUT $5,600 PER MONTH, SO YOU'D BE LOOKING AT A COST OF SERVICE, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 700 AND 90 5000 TO $865,000. THE NUMBERS WE HAVE HERE, THIS IS THIS IS. SO IF WE TAKE ALL THE GOGO RIDERS. SO NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOT ONLY THE ONES IN THE CITY, BUT ALSO THE ONES IN THE ETJ. IT'S ABOUT IT'S ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 55[01:15:05]
TRIPS PER MONTH IN THE ETJ, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR BETWEEN 16 TO 20 PEOPLE THAT USE THAT SERVICE. IT IS ONLY ABOUT THREE ACTUAL WHEELCHAIR TRIPS WHICH WHICH IS 1 TO 2 PEOPLE, ARE MOSTLY USING THOSE. NO CHANGE IN THE COST STRUCTURE. AGAIN, IT'S THE $4 THEY PAY THE FIRST $4 WITH A $10 VOUCHER. THE WAVE IS ONLY FOR $4 BECAUSE MOST OF THESE ARE. WE'RE PROJECTING THESE. MOST OF THESE WOULD BE VOUCHER TRIPS. THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THAT $600 FEE.AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW IF YOU OPEN THIS UP TO ANY AGE, HOW MANY MORE TRIPS THIS BRINGS IN. BUT IT DOES INCLUDE, LIKE I SAID, IT DOES INCLUDE THE GOJO RIDERS IN THE CITY LIMITS AND ETJ, AND THEN WE PROJECT THAT COST TO BE ABOUT 802 TO 872,000. SOME OF THE COST SAVINGS THAT THAT WE WENT OVER WAS REDUCING THE HOURS FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AND THEN ALSO REDUCING THOSE HOURS BETWEEN ELIMINATING THE HOURS BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 6 A.M. AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT IF WE INCREASE A FARE EACH DOLLAR ABOUT WHAT THAT SAVINGS IS. SO FY 27 COSTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS CHANGING THE SERVICE BETWEEN 7 A.M. 7 P.M. WHICH WOULD MATCH KIND OF THE GO G0, BUT THIS WOULD BE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. SOME OF THE CRITERIA IS, AGAIN, WE'RE ADDING IN ALL THE GOGO RIDERS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, NO GROWTH, GO G0 TRIPS, NO CHANGE IN THE COST STRUCTURE. AND THEN THIS WOULD ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 98/90 8% OF THE WAVE TRIPS, AS WE'VE SEEN IN THAT CHART. AND IT IS ABOUT 75% OF THE VOUCHER TRIPS ARE TAKEN BETWEEN THIS TIME FRAME ANTICIPATED RESULTS. YOU SEE ABOUT A 25% REDUCTION IN TRIPS.
BUT AGAIN, ALL THOSE ARE WAY TRIPS, AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT $7.22 PER TRIP. SO IT'S ABOUT A 10% SAVINGS PER MONTH. AND THEN WORKING WITH TRIP COME UP TO ABOUT 75 TO $85,000 PER YEAR SAVINGS IN AFTER HOURS SERVICES AND REDUCED TRIPS. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AMENDING THE CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR AFTER HOURS SERVICES AND LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOAD FEE WOULD BE FOR THE WAVE, AND TO HAVE WAVE AVAILABLE MULTIPLE WAVE VEHICLES AVAILABLE DURING THOSE TIMES. THE SECOND ITEM WE LOOKED AT WAS GETTING RID OF KIND OF THAT MIDNIGHT OR THAT MIDNIGHT TO 7 A.M. TIME FRAME. AND SO EXISTING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS TAKEN IN ALL THE GOGO RIDERS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. NO GROWTH, NO CHANGE IS YOU SAW IN THAT CHART BEFORE LESS THAN 1% OF WAVE TRIPS ARE HAPPENING AT THIS TIME. AND IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 5% OF THE VOUCHER TRIPS. SO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. TYPO ON HERE ARE HAPPENING BETWEEN THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT, THAT 5% SAVINGS PER MONTH KIND OF COMES IN. IT ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR THE, FOR THE AFTER HOURS SAVINGS. SO THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 40,000, $50,000 SAVINGS PER YEAR. AND AGAIN, WE'D STILL HAVE TO AMEND THE CONTRACT ON THAT AS WELL. AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE COST REDUCTION OPTION OF INCREASING PER DOLLAR. SO IF WE WENT TO $4 TO $5 OR 4 TO 6, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECTED COST SAVINGS BETWEEN 25,000 TO $30,000 PER YEAR. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN LOOK AT COMBINING SOME OF THESE OPTIONS. SO IF YOU COMBINE SOME OF THESE OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, IT COULD GO FROM ANYWHERE BETWEEN 85,000 TO $110,000. POTENTIAL SAVINGS. IF YOU COMBINE SOME OF THESE COST SAVINGS. AND THEN JUST KIND OF COMING BACK TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL FEEDBACK. THANK YOU.
LET ME START DOWN THIS WAY. BEN, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? SURE. LUCA, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, I GUESS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WHAT WAS THE TOTAL EXPENDITURE WE HAD WITH CAPITAL METRO? DO YOU KNOW, ON METRO WE SPENT ABOUT $260,000. THAT'S WHAT OUR CONTRACT IS A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT. IT'S LIKE 258 AND SOME CHANGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I THINK IN TERMS OF THE FEEDBACK YOU'RE REQUESTING HERE, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S IT'S WORKING BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD TO THE TUNE OF, YOU KNOW, COSTING US MORE THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO. SO I'M OPEN TO KIND OF LOOKING AT MODIFICATION OF THE CONTRACT. I THINK THAT WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT IS THE 12 A.M. TO 7 A.M. KIND OF CUTTING THOSE BACK. I DON'T SEE PURPOSE. AND WITH THE STATS WE'RE SEEING IN THE DATA CONTINUING TO ABSORB THE COSTS THERE. NOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE COSTING OF THIS. IF THE RIDE IS NOT INCURRED, WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT. CORRECT. IT'S AS RIDES ARE INCURRED OR THERE'S SOME ADMINISTRATIVE FEES FOR THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. YEAH, YEAH. SO IF I, IF I GO BACK FOR, FOR THE
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AFTER HOURS TO PROVIDE THE WAVE TRIPS, IT'S $550 PER DAY TO HAVE A RIDER OF A DRIVER AVAILABLE FOR, FOR WAVE. AND HOW SPECIFICALLY, HOW IS THAT REDUCED? IF WE CUT HOURS FROM 12 A.M. TO 7 A.M. SO PART OF THAT THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION, OBVIOUSLY IN TRIPS, AND THEN THERE WILL BE THAT REDUCTION IN THAT THAT 550 AGAIN. SO WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH TRIP, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT COST SAVING COMES FROM. OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT RECOVERING THE TOTAL 550 PER DAY BECAUSE WE'D STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS BAKED INTO THAT 550 PER DAY. OKAY, PERFECT. AND IF YOU GO TO THE BACK TO THE QUESTIONS ON THE FEEDBACK, I THINK THAT WAS ONE MORE. I THINK, AGAIN, I'M OPEN TO DIFFERENT IDEAS ON SAVINGS.BUT AGAIN, I THINK REALLY KIND OF I DON'T WANT TO CUT TIMES WHERE THE, THE SERVICE IS BEING UTILIZED HEAVILY. SO I THINK, YEAH, I'M STILL JUST IN FAVOR OF THE 12 A.M. TO 7 A.M. CUTS.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S MEETING THE GOALS THAT WE TRIED TO SET. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO GROW, I'M NOT SURE A TWO YEAR TIME FRAME IS ENOUGH FOR US TO MAKE SOME OTHER JUDGMENTS. I DON'T SUGGEST ANY CHANGES FOR 27. AND AS ALWAYS, WE ALWAYS OUGHT TO BE LOOKING FOR COST SAVINGS, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SERVICE TO THE CUSTOMER. YEAH, I LOVE THIS PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN GO GO. I'M VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SHOWED TO US TODAY. I THINK THE BIGGEST THINGS I CAME AWAY WITH COMPARED TO GOGO IS GOGO IS ONLY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7 TO 7. AND RIGHT NOW RIDE SHARE RIDE G IS 247. SO I WOULD I WOULD BE OPEN TO CUTTING BACK THE HOURS. IF OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE IT MORE LIKE GOGO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SUBSIDIZE 24 HOURS A DAY NECESSARILY. AND YOU KNOW, WE ALSO OFFER SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, WHICH GOGO DID NOT. ALSO FOR THE ETJ. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE GOING OUT THERE. I DON'T MAYBE I'M CONFUSED. ARE YOU SAYING THAT ETJ RESIDENTS ARE USING THE VOUCHERS? NO, NO. SO RIGHT NOW THE GOGO INCORPORATES SOME OF OUR ETJ BECAUSE IT'S IT'S IN THE RURAL AREA AND WE WERE PREVIOUSLY GETTING SUBSIDIES FOR THAT.
CORRECT? CORRECT. AND SO IF WE GO TO RIDE, GET THOSE SUBSIDIES, GO AWAY. CORRECT. OKAY. SO I WOULD I WOULD BE OKAY. JUST HAVING CITY TO CITY. NO, NO. ETJ. I THINK THAT WE GOT A PROBLEM HERE, WHICH IS A GOOD PROBLEM. WE CREATED A NEW SERVICE AND IT'S WORKING VERY WELL. WORKING TOO GOOD ACTUALLY, FOR, FOR THE MONEY WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR IT. SO LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGE OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET, ONE OR THE OTHER. EITHER WE DON'T CHANGE IT AND WE GOT TO PUT MORE MONEY IN, OR WE MAKE CHANGES TO TRY TO KEEP IT WITHIN THE NUMBER. WE SET UP. THE FOR THE CHANGES, I WOULD PREFER. REALLY A 12 A.M. BASICALLY CUT OFF AT 12 A.M. IF WE WERE GOING TO REDUCE TIME, CUT OFF AT 12 A.M. AND CUT IT BACK ON AT 6 A.M. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART ON PAGE ON SLIDE 11, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT STARTS TICKING BACK UP AT SIX. AND I'LL GET TO SOME OTHER THOUGHTS I HAVE WITH THOSE TIME FRAMES AS WELL. I WOULD REMOVE THE ETJ ALTOGETHER, JUST SOMETHING THAT CITIZENS OF GEORGETOWN ARE FUNDING AND SHOULD PROVIDE, GET THE SERVICE FROM. WE'RE WE'RE HAVING TO CUT BACK ON ETJ SERVICE ON OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT HERE. OR A TIERED STRUCTURE WHERE ETJ PAYS MORE IF WE ARE CONTINUING TO SERVE PARTS OF THE ETJ. BUT I THINK REMOVING IT TO ME MAKES MAKES MORE SENSE. ALSO, I THINK PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT GO AHEAD AND INCREASE THE FARE TO $5. AND THEN I BELIEVE SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THIS SERVICE LIMIT WAIVE TRIPS HAVE LIMIT ON THAT. IS THAT HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT OR HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? YEAH, WE WE'VE WE'VE TALKED TO TRIP AND ASKED THEM HOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. THEY SAID, LIMIT IT TO 25 AND LOOKING AT HOURS. I MEAN, THAT REALLY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE AN EFFECT. WE'D HAVE TO LIMIT IT DOWN TO TEN BEFORE YOU'D SEE THAT HAVE AN EFFECT. SO NOBODY'S WRITING IT MORE THAN MAYBE MAYBE 1 OR 2 TIMES THEY'VE GONE OVER THAT 25.
BUT MOSTLY WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT OVER. PEOPLE USE IT MORE THAN 25 TIMES A MONTH. OKAY.
WELL, WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT DOING THAT EITHER AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE IF IT IS UNLIMITED, THE WAIVER UNLIMITED AND THEY'RE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO MITIGATE OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR RISK THERE THAT THE WAVE COULD END UP EATING UP. I MEAN, IT'S A LOT MORE
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EXPENSIVE FOR THE WAVE. WE HAVE TO OFFER IT, I GET IT AND WE NEED TO OFFER IT. BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF CAP TO TO MITIGATE RISK THERE FOR US. THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO FOR OTHER OPTIONS, IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT RIGHT THIS SECOND, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN LOOKING AT THE SERVICE AND LOOKING AT THE USAGE, IF WE COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT RATE STRUCTURE FOR WORKING HOURS VERSUS NON-WORKING HOURS, SO SOMEONE USING IT FROM BASICALLY SIX TO 6 TO 6 ESSENTIALLY IS PROBABLY USING IT TO GET TO WORK AND GET HOME, GO TO THE DOCTOR, GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, BASICALLY EVERYDAY LIFE THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED FOR TRANSPORTATION. PEOPLE USING IT OUTSIDE OF THAT ARE REALLY PROBABLY LIKELY USING IT MORE FOR, FOR LUXURY BECAUSE IT'S THERE. I KNOW A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN HAVE SIGNS UP LIKE GET HOME SAFE RIDE, RIDE, GET TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T DRINKING AND DRIVING AND GET ON THE STREETS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT TO BE AN OPTION, NOT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE DRINKING, BUT TO KEEP THE SUPPORT PEOPLE MAKING BETTER DECISIONS AND NOT DRINKING AND DRIVING. SO WITH THAT SAID, IF WE COULD MAKE IT WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY 6 TO 6, 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M. IS $5. AND OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS, IT'S $6 OR 650, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS. SO BASICALLY THOSE USING IT MORE FOR FOR PLEASURE ARE GOING TO PAY MORE THAN THOSE USING IT AS A NECESSITY. YEAH. SO YEAH, AND I CAN ADDRESS THAT TOO, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH TRIP ABOUT THIS, THE WAY THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS SET UP, YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO PROVIDE ANOTHER QR CODE OR VOUCHER. SO IT INCLUDE THOSE HOURS. SO IT WOULD LIMIT THE HOURS, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER DIRECTION Y'ALL WOULD WANT TO GO. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE SERVICE OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT'D BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT VOUCHER WHERE WE COULD LOOK AT CHARGING A DIFFERENT RATE FOR THAT. OKAY. THOSE ARE SOME IDEAS I HAD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO IN LARGE CITIES, YOU HAVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOR LOTS OF REASONS. ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT IT GETS MORE PEOPLE OFF THE ROAD. IF YOU HAVE 30 OR 40 PEOPLE ON A BUS, THOSE ARE 30 OR 40 PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT DRIVING. WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL RIDES. SO PROVIDING THIS SERVICE BECAUSE THE BUS SERVICE IS NOT FEASIBLE HERE, IS NOT A GOOD REASON FOR HAVING THIS SERVICE IN MY OPINION. SO WHAT IS THE REASON FOR HAVING THIS SERVICE, IN MY OPINION, IS TO FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T OR SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON. IF THEY CAN'T OR SHOULDN'T BECAUSE OF AGE OR PHYSICAL LIMITS OR MENTAL LIMITS OR WHATEVER. I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT GO TO WORK. IF YOU ONLY HAVE TEN VOUCHERS A MONTH AND YOU'RE LIMITED TO CAN'T DRIVE, THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND SO I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THOSE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOLDING DOWN A JOB BUT CAN'T OR SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING AND ALLOWING THEM TO GET TO WORK WITHOUT HAVING TO DEPEND ON THEIR PARENTS OR OTHER PEOPLE. SO I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THAT. GOJYO DID A LOT OF THAT, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS THAT WERE ON GO, GO STILL CAN RIDE THIS, AND I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO HAVE UNLIMITED RIDES AS OPPOSED TO THE TEN IF THEY HAVE MENTAL OR PHYSICAL PROBLEMS. IF YOU'RE JUST USING IT FOR CONVENIENCE, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO LIMIT IT TO TEN A MONTH OR WHATEVER THE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO EXTEND THE HOURS INTO THE EVENING. SIX SIX INSTEAD OF 7 TO 7. 6 TO 7.MAKES SENSE TO ME. LOOKING AT THE CHARTS, THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GO TO WORK IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A BEER AFTER WORK OR TWO, THAT'S OKAY. BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT DRINKING AFTER SEVEN, MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING. BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT DRINKING AFTER SEVEN, MAYBE THEY CAN AFFORD A FULL UBER CAR INSTEAD OF HAVING A SUBSIDIZE THEM DRINKING LATER.
IF THEY LEAVE BY SEVEN, THEY SAVE MONEY ON THE UBER RIDE, AND THEY ALSO SAVE MONEY ON THAT SECOND OR THIRD OR FOURTH BEER. SO THAT IS HELPING OUR PEOPLE SAVE MONEY. AS FAR AS THE ETJ, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO THE ETJ. THERE SHOULD BE A REASON FOR BEING IN THE CITY LIMITS. IT SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING. AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT IF THIS IS A CITY PROGRAM, YOU NEED TO TO LIVE INSIDE THE CITY. AS FAR AS THE $5, I WOULD SUPPORT THE THE RAISE OF $5, THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FOR THE GO GO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE STARTING AT TWO AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO FIVE. SO THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT. I
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DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN IF THEY QUALIFIED FOR GO GO BEFORE IF WE CAN KEEP THEIRS BEFORE AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO. FIVE BUT YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER CODE. SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK. SO DID I ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS? YEAH, SIX 6 TO 7 FOR THE HOURS.NOT INTO THE. ETJ. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE GO GO BEFORE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO GET TO WORK. IF IF THAT WAS THEIR WAY TO GET TO WORK. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO THE ETJ WRITERS, IT'S NOT THE WHOLE ETJ ON GOGURYEO, IS IT? OR IS IT JUST CERTAIN AREAS OF THE ETJ? YEAH, IT'S JUST CERTAIN AREAS IN THE ETJ. OKAY. AND HOW WERE THOSE? WHY IS IT THOSE CERTAIN AREAS, HOW WERE THOSE SELECTED OR I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PINPOINTED, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN AREAS OF THE ETJ. YEAH, THAT IT'S DONE WITH CAPMETRO. SO CAPMETRO LOOKS AT THE URBANIZED AREA SO THEY DON'T JUST LOOK AT CITY LIMITS, THEY LOOK AT THE URBANIZED AREA. AND IF YOU'RE WITHIN THAT URBANIZED AREA, YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO USE THOSE CERTAIN FUNDS. THE 530753 TEN FOR TRANSIT SERVICES. SO WE ARE SUBSIDIZED FOR TRIPS IN THE ETJ RIGHT NOW. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE GO TO THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T BE SUBSIDIZED ANYMORE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE ANYMORE. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S ABOUT THE 55 PEOPLE THAT YOU SAID THAT WERE USING THAT THAT WOULD THEREFORE, AND MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE, I DO BELIEVE, ARE USING THOSE FOR DAILY LIFE TASK, BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED FROM A COUPLE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, THAT ONE IS IN A MOTORIZED WHEELCHAIR AND USES THE SERVICE ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO WE WOULD BE THEN ELIMINATING THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING SOME OF THE SERVICE FOR DAILY LIFE NEEDS IN THE ETJ. IS THAT ACCURATE TO SAY CORRECT. OKAY.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF LOSING THAT SUBSIDY, CORRECT. OKAY. SO FOR ME, I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THIS PROGRAM FOR, FOR TWO REASONS. I THINK WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION TO, TO MOVE THIS PROGRAM OVER, ONE THING WE DID SAY IS THAT WE WANTED IT TO CARRY OVER TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE USING THE GO GO. SO I THINK IT AND I UNDERSTAND THE SUBSIDY PART.
AND THAT'S THAT'S CHALLENGING FOR ME BECAUSE I THINK WE WILL BE DROPPING PEOPLE WHO POTENTIALLY HAVE BEEN USING THE SERVICE. AND THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE. BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT WE JUST LIKE THE LIBRARY AND JUST LIKE THE REC CENTER, THERE'S A DIFFERENT RATE FOR THOSE THAT DO LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. SO IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THOSE THAT AREA IN THE ETJ OR THE ETJ AT ALL, I WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT AT A DIFFERENT TIERED RATE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S FAIR TO KEEP OUR SERVICES IN LINE AND SAY, IF YOU ARE OUT OF IF YOU'RE OUT OF RESIDENCE ON OTHER SERVICES, YOU WOULD NEED TO BE A DIFFERENT TIERED RATE FOR FOR THIS SERVICE. I'M PROBABLY NOT IN THE MAJORITY ON THAT STATEMENT, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT DID WANT TO NOTE THAT THAT I WOULD SUPPORT CONTINUING WITH THE ETJ, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO BE AT A HIGHER RATE FOR THAT. I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE A GREAT PROBLEM AS, AS KEVIN SAID, THAT THIS SERVICE IS CLEARLY WORKING. IT'S GREAT TO SEE PEOPLE USING A SERVICE AND NOT HAVE A SERVICE. DRIVING AROUND WITH NOBODY ON IT, AS WE HAD WITH THE PREVIOUS METRO SYSTEM THAT WE HAD. BUT I AM A BIG BELIEVER IN THAT. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO USE THIS FOR WORK OR FOR DAILY LIFE SERVICES, DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS, GROCERY STORES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, ARE ARE PRIORITIZED.
SO IF I HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS, IT WOULD BE TO SAY THAT THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE THE PRIORITY. SO I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT ELIMINATING THAT. LET 12 WHAT IS IT, 12 A.M. TO SIX.
AND THEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE RATE WHERE IT IS, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT GO G OH, THERE IT IS ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM 2 TO 4. AND I THINK I'VE HEARD THAT FROM RESIDENTS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EVEN THAT INCREASE. AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING IT FOR THOSE DAILY LIFE TASKS, WHETHER IT'S 6 A.M.
TO 6 P.M. OR 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU ALL THINK WORKS BEST. BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE THE PRIORITY TO REMAIN AT THAT RATE. I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, I ALSO LIKE THE 24 OVER SEVEN SERVICE, NOT WELL, NOT THE 12 A.M. MAYBE, BUT THAT THE LATER NIGHT SERVICE, FOR REASONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED, LIKE GETTING PEOPLE HOME SAFELY, ENCOURAGING THEM TO COME DOWNTOWN, SPEND SOME TIME, SPEND SOME MONEY AND ALSO BE ABLE TO GET HOME SAFELY. I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS PARENTS AT SOUTHWESTERN ASK, WHAT SERVICES DO YOU HAVE IN THE CITY? IF MY STUDENT CHOOSES NOT TO BRING A CAR TO SCHOOL AND I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP. SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT. BUT I AGREE WITH KEVIN THAT IF THAT IS A NICE TO HAVE THAT THAT COULD SHOULD BE AT A HIGHER RATE AS WELL. SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT I'D LIKE TO THINK CREATIVELY WITH THIS PROGRAM, IF WE COULD THINK ABOUT A TIERED RATE FOR THOSE EVENING HOURS WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING THIS AS MORE OF A LUXURY ITEM, AS HE SAID, I WOULD I
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WOULD SUPPORT THAT. SO, SO I THINK LET'S GET OUR PEOPLE THAT NEED THE SERVICE. SO THERE'S MANY REASONS WHY PEOPLE DON'T DRIVE. WE DO HAVE A SENIOR POPULATION, AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR THEIR LIFE. AND I ALSO WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE ADA NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. BETWEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE WORKING HOURS, WHETHER THAT'S TO GET TO A JOB OR DO OTHER DAILY LIFE TASKS. AND THEN FROM THERE, IF WE COULD LOOK AT SOME TEARS, I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BOTH FOR THE ETJ, FRANKLY, AND FOR PEOPLE USING THAT AFTER HOURS FOR, FOR MORE, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO HAVE FUN SERVICES IF YOU IF YOU WILL. DID I ANSWER EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A QUESTION BECAUSE I HAD A CONCERN FROM A CONSTITUENT ON THE THE ACTUAL AVAILABILITY OF THE WAVE SERVICE AND A COMPLAINT THAT THEY SCHEDULED TRIPS AND SOMETIMES THE WAVE VEHICLE WAS AVAILABLE AND SOMETIMES IT WASN'T. CAN YOU SPEAK AT ALL TO THAT OR. YEAH. SO SO MY, MY EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH TALKING WITH SOME OF THESE IS IF YOUR TRIP ORIGIN OR DESTINATION IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER OUR PROGRAM. SO YOUR TRIP COULD START IN THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN. AND I'VE HEARD SOME OF THESE TRIPS ARE ACTUALLY OUT ON SHELL ROAD WHERE THEY BELIEVE IT'S IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ETJ, AND THEIR WAIT TIME HAS BEEN UP TO LIKE 45 MINUTES. SO TRIP OR Z TRIP ACTUALLY PROVIDES TRIPS. THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR SERVICE AREA IS A LOT LARGER THAN OURS. THEY WILL PROVIDE THAT TRIP, BUT THE WAIT TIMES ARE GOING TO BE WHEN A DRIVER IS AVAILABLE AS OPPOSED TO MEETING OUR TITLE TWO FOR ADA ON THAT. SO THOSE ARE THE. A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE HEARD WE YOU KNOW, AND WORKING WITH TRIP, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN SOME DRIVER ISSUES ALSO FOR FOR WAIT TIMES. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL THIS, ALL THE HICCUPS AND EVERYTHING WE'RE HAVING WITH THE PROGRAM. BUT MOST OF THEM, MOST OF THE CONCERNS I'VE HEARD IS, IS MY, YOU KNOW, MY ORIGIN OR DESTINATION IS OUTSIDE AND THE WAIT TIME HAS BEEN A LOT LONGER. OKAY. WELL, AND THAT'S, THAT SEEMS FAIR ENOUGH. I THINK I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID PRIMARILY. I THINK THE THING I MOST AGREE WITH IS WHAT AMANDA AND KEVIN SAID, WHICH IS I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A TIERED SYSTEM, IT MAKES SENSE THAT YOU TIER IT BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6 A.M. AND 6 P.M. I THINK THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, TO KEVIN'S POINT, AND ALSO TO BEN'S POINT, TOO, LIKE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT AND NEED TO RUN THAT FOR NEED TO RUN ERRANDS OR NEED THE RIDES FOR WORK OR WHATEVER. AND SO IT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE THAT THE MOST AFFORDABLE. AND THEN ANYTHING BEYOND THAT IS SORT OF A LUXURY OR ENTERTAINMENT CONVENIENCE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY ANY PROBLEM WITH. AND I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME EFFICIENCIES TO IN HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE AVAILABILITY OF THE PROGRAM FOR A BROADER PERIOD OF TIME IN GENERAL. BUT I THINK PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT KEVIN SAID, AS FAR AS I'M FINE WITH THE INCREASE IN FEE, EVEN AN INCREASE IN FEE, WHEN YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT, IT'S IT'S DRAMATICALLY CHEAPER THAN A CAR PAYMENT, EVEN A USED CAR PAYMENT. SO I THINK WE'RE STILL SUBSIDIZING, YOU KNOW, THIS PROGRAM DRAMATICALLY AND MAKING STRIDES TOWARDS. A MORE ACCESSIBLE AND CLEARLY MORE USED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. SO GENERALLY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK IT'S IT'S GOOD. I AGREE WITH THE MODIFICATIONS THAT KEVIN WANTS TO MAKE. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. AMANDA. SORRY, I FORGOT TO ASK THIS QUESTION ON THE WAVE. ARE THERE ANY WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR THAT? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE MOST EXPENSIVE TRIPS. BUT I, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION OR TOLD OF LATE THAT THAT NOT NECESSARILY TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY CALL IN NEED THAT I JUST WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE NOT SENDING PEOPLE AWAY RIDE IF IF THEY DON'T NEED A WAVE RIDE. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, IN HELPING, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW, WE DO KNOW THOSE ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE RIDES CURRENTLY WE'VE ADDED.THERE IS NO LIKE YOU CALL AND YOU GOT TO ANSWER OR PROVIDE A DOCTOR'S NOTE. BUT THERE HAS BEEN RECENTLY, LAST MONTH THEY WE'VE ADDED WHEN YOU CALL IN, THERE'S AN INTERACTIVE INTERFACE THAT'S BEEN ADDED THAT REALLY DIRECTS YOU TO AFFIRM THAT THIS IS A NEED FOR A WHEELCHAIR ACCESS RIDE, NOT NECESSARILY JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT THIS TYPE OF TRIP, RIGHT? SO IT ASKS YOU THAT A FEW TIMES JUST TO REAFFIRM LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, TO MEET ADA, WE, WE CAN'T HAVE THEM ASK QUESTIONS ON THEIR DISABILITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
RIGHT. BUT WE ARE TRYING TO CLARIFY AT LEAST THAT THEY NEED A WHEELCHAIR. SO WE'RE NOT SENDING SOMEONE OUT THAT JUST MAYBE HAS A CANE AND COULD GET IN A REGULAR VEHICLE. AND THAT WOULD BE THEREFORE LESSER EXPENSIVE TRIP. CORRECT. OKAY, THANKS. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE LEFT US WITH NOT HELPFUL FEEDBACK. IT'S ALL HELPFUL, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A CONSENSUS
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FEEDBACK. SO I'M GOING TO FORCE US TO, TO AT LEAST A SIMPLE MAJORITY CONSENSUS HERE. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT THREE FOLKS THAT SAID THEY WOULD PREFER TO, TO LIMIT THE SERVICE TO 6 TO 6 OR THEREABOUTS. AND THEN THREE FOLKS THAT SAID THEY WOULD PREFER TO CHANGE THE RATES, LEAVE THE SERVICE WHERE IT'S AT, BUT CHANGE THE RATES FOR THOSE DIFFERENT PERIODS TO HAVE A HIGHER RATE AFTER THE WORKING HOURS. AND THEN I THINK RON WAS BASICALLY LEAVE IT AS IT IS, WHICH LEAVES US THREE, THREE, ONE. SO LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS HERE TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION. SO ONE ROUTE WOULD BE TO GO TO COMPLETELY LIMIT THE SERVICE TO THE WORKING HOURS. THE OTHER ROUTE WOULD BE TO KEEP THE SERVICE, BUT CHANGE THE RATES TO BE HIGHER OUTSIDE OF THE WORKING HOURS. I MENTIONED, I SUGGESTED REDUCE THE RATES, BUT BASICALLY SHUT IT OFF AT 12 A.M. AND TURN IT BACK ON AT SIX. YEAH. WHICH IS KIND OF A HYBRID OF THE TWO. YEAH. NOT REDUCE THE RATES AND THEN INCREASE THE FARE TO FIVE.SO BOTH REDUCING THE HOURS JUST OUTSIDE, BENNETT SAID. 6 TO 6. I WAS SAYING BASICALLY IT'D BE 6 TO 1159 ESSENTIALLY. AND THEN INCREASE RATE AND REMOVE ETJ. FOR EVERYONE. YEAH. REAL QUICK.
SO I DO THINK WE HAD COMPLETE CONSENSUS ON, ON THE ETJ AND REMOVING SERVICE FROM THE ETJ.
RIGHT. I THINK WE OKAY, WE GOT AT LEAST THAT DONE. SO KEVIN, RESTATE YOURS. I'D SAID INCREASE THE FARE TO FIVE BUCKS AND HAVE THE REDUCED THE HOURS WHERE IT CUTS OFF AT 12 A.M.
TURNS BACK ON AT 6 A.M. OKAY, AND CUTS OFF AT 12 A.M. BACK ON AT 6 A.M. CORRECT. GOT IT. AND AND TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY OR OPTION OF DOING A TIERED STRUCTURE AFTER HOURS. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO RIGHT THIS SECOND THEN. YEAH. SO HAVING A TIERED STRUCTURE THAT WERE LOWER RATE FROM 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M. AND THEN A HIGHER RATE 6 P.M. TO 12 A.M.
AND THEN WE HAD ONE CAVEAT TO THAT. AND I'D HAVE THAT HIGHER RATE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AS WELL. YEAH. GOTCHA. SO BASICALLY NON-WORK HOURS. OKAY. SO WE GOT TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION HERE. SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON OF THE GROUP THAT IS ON THE CUT THE SERVICE. SO WITH THAT I'M NOT IN A IN OPPOSITION TO A TIERED STRUCTURE. MY QUESTION BECOMES HOW MUCH ADMINISTRATION GOES UP ON THE PROGRAM TO DO TIERED STRUCTURES. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO IS WE COULD WE COULD EXPLORE IT AND BRING IT BACK TO SHOW YOU EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK. SO I THINK, LOUIS, YOU WERE TALKING WITH TRIPP TODAY AND JUST STARTING TO EXPLORE THAT. SO WE COULD, WE COULD IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE THE RATE FARE INCREASE AND LIMIT THE HOURS AND START WORKING AND THEN YEAH, BRING BACK A PLAN. MAYBE THAT MAYBE THAT'S I MEAN, I THINK YOU UNDERSTANDING THE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE FOLKS WHO ARE USING IT FOR WORK TO BENEFIT MORE THAN THE FOLKS THAT ARE USING IT FOR LEISURE. AND IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT THROUGH SOME COMBINATION OF REDUCING THE SERVICE HOURS AND OR TIERED RATE STRUCTURES AND THEN ELIMINATING THE ETJ RIDES, CAN YOU ALL COME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN? YEAH, WE CAN COME BACK WITH A PLAN. AND THEN JUST THE TIERED, I THINK WE'D COME BACK WITH LIKE MAYBE A $10 FEE, $15 FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY'D PAY THE FIRST 10 OR $15 OF THAT RIDE AND THEN KIND OF SHOW WHAT THAT COST SAVINGS MAY BE. I THINK IT'D BE WE CAN COME UP WITH OPTIONS ON DOLLAR AMOUNTS, BUT ALSO JUST LOGISTICALLY, HOW WOULD WE MAKE THAT WORK AND HOW WE'D ADVERTISE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT'S COMMUNICATED WELL. I MEAN, THE ONE THING AND THEN ALSO HOW WE WOULD DEAL WITH THE VOUCHER LIMITATION, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S TEN VOUCHERS PER MONTH. IF YOU'RE DIFFERENTIATING THE VOUCHERS, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT. SO WE JUST NEED WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH LET'S, LET US WORK THROUGH LOGISTICALLY SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND BRING IT BACK. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS JUST KIND OF REITERATE WHAT SOME FOLKS HAVE SAID. I MEAN, THE FOLKS THAT ARE USING IT FOR LEISURE PLEASURE OR WHATEVER, LOVE THIS SERVICE. I MEAN, OF, OF ALL THE THINGS WE DO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE HOW MUCH THEY'RE USING IT, HOW MUCH THEY LIKE IT. AND SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO EVEN IF WE HAD TO ADJUST THE RATES FOR KIND OF THE LEISURE HOURS TO, TO KEEP IT IN EFFECT JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LIKE. BUT AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY THE MAIN FOCUS IS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT FOR. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, FOLKS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE
[1.D Electric and Fire Code Updates]
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WHO'S LEADING US OFF ON THE ELECTRIC AND FIRE CODE UPDATES. DANIEL, ARE YOU GOING TO LEAD US OFF? AFTERNOON COUNCIL. MAYOR, WE'VE GOT SOME PROPOSED FIRE CODE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE COMING UP. THESE ARE TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR FIRE CODE. MOST OF THEM HAVE COME FROM EITHER THE 2024 CODE OR THE 2027 CODE. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER THE 21 NEXT YEAR WHEN THE 2027 IS FULLY OUT, THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE UPDATED FOR THAT AS WELL. THEY WANT TO CLARIFY SOME TERMINOLOGY IN THERE, SOME DEFINITIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLARIFY ARE FREQUENCY FREQUENCY LICENSE HOLDERS, OCCUPIABLE ROOFS AND OCCUPIED ROOFS. WE SEE A LOT OF THAT COMING UP. AND WHEN TO CLARIFY THOSE DEFINITIONS. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ASKED TO US FROM COUNCIL A WHILE BACK LOOKING AT SINGLE EXIT BUILDINGS. THESE ARE FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. FOR R2'S, THEY WOULD HAVE A MAX OF SIX STORIES. NET FLOOR AREA OF 4000FTā !S. THEY WOULD BE SPRINKLED BUILDINGS, ELEVATOR ACCESS IS REQUIRED AND THERE WOULD BE NO ELECTRICAL IN THE STAIRWELL THAT GOES THROUGH IT.IT WOULD BE SEPARATED IN THE STAIRWELL FOR JUST THE LIGHTING OF THE STAIRWELL. TEMPORARY STRUCTURES. THIS ONE IS TO ALIGN WITH THE IBC. RIGHT NOW, OUR PERMITS ARE A LITTLE BIT OFF FROM WHAT THE IBC IS. AND SO WE WANT TO ALIGN THAT SO THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF PERMITS AND THEY HAVE THE SAME DATES. OURS IS 180 DAYS. THERE'S JUST 365. SO WE JUST KIND OF WANT TO ALIGN THE PERMIT STYLE. WOULD THIS APPLY TO I GUESS WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF TENTS WOULD THIS APPLY TO? IS THIS ENCLOSED OR IS THIS JUST LIKE A PARTY TENT TYPE, A BIG PARTY TENT. IT'S FOR ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURE. IT COULD BE ANYTHING. IT'S ANYTHING OVER 200 SQUARE FOOT. VALET TRASH SERVICE. SO WE'VE SEEN A QUESTION ON THAT. JUST BECAUSE WE HAD A I THINK WE HAD A QUESTION OR A REQUEST, SOMETHING SIMILAR OUT AT THE AIRPORT THAT WAS MORE OF A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, MAYBE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MEMBRANE. IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN, THAN WHAT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT? IS THERE IS THERE A. IT WOULD BE BECAUSE I THINK THE OTHER ONE HAD MORE PERMANENT FOUNDATION TO IT. AND. OKAY. YEAH. SO THIS WOULD BE SERVICE. YEAH. THIS COULD BE PUT JUST FOR TENT UTILITIES. IT COULD BE SET ON GRAVEL OR ANYTHING. NOT, NOT ON A CONCRETE STRUCTURE. GOT IT. VALET TRASH SERVICE. A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE OFFERING THIS. THE ISSUE WITH IT THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE EXIT AREAS. SO THEY'RE PUTTING THE TRASH OUT IN THE EXIT AREAS. IT MAKES IT A EASY PLACE TARGET FOR A FIRE, WHETHER IT BE MISCHIEF OR ARSON OR SOME SORT. BUT THEN IT BLOCKS THE EXIT WAY.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY USE THE PROPER TRASH CANS INSIDE THOSE AREAS. RECLAIMED WATER. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ASKED TO US ABOUT USING RECLAIMED WATER FOR FIREFIGHTING PURPOSES. OUT OF THE 971 TREATMENT PLANT. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO.
WE JUST WANT TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM WATER ON IF IT'S GOING TO CONTAMINATE ANYTHING, OR IF WE TAKE OUR TRUCK FROM THIS WATER AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE. AND WILL IT CONTAMINATE ANY WATER SYSTEMS? EMERGENCY RESPONDER, RADIO COMMUNICATION THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CODE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CLARIFICATION THAT CAME OUT IN THE 24 AND ALSO IN THE 27 THAT HELPS LEAD THE END USER ON HOW TO PUT THE SYSTEM IN WHEN THE SYSTEM IS REQUIRED, AND TAKES A LOT OF THE GUESSWORK OUT OF IT FOR THEM. SO WE WANTED TO CLEAR UP SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE. NOW, SINCE WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE COMING IN. THIS ONE FOR SMOKE ALARMS, THIS IS FOR SLEEPING LOFT AREAS. IT JUST KIND OF CLARIFIES WHERE SMOKE ALARM SHOULD BE FOR A SLEEPING AREA. THAT'S A LOFT BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF LOFT STYLE RESIDENCE STRUCTURES. AND THEN POST FIRE. FIRE PROTECTION. THIS IS FOR GROUP I RESIDENTIAL ONE, TWO AND FOUR. AND SO WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT IF THERE'S DAMAGE OF GREATER THAN 50%, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE IBC AND IT'S UNOCCUPIABLE FOR GREATER THAN 60 DAYS, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM TO BE INSTALLED. AND IF THAT IS WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES.
NOW FOR THAT FOR THAT RESIDENCE, IS THAT JUST IF YOU DECIDE TO REBUILD THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WITH GREATER THAN 50% DAMAGE, IF IT HAS 50% OR GREATER DAMAGE. OKAY. GOTCHA. SO IF YOU IF YOU
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LIKE, DEMO THE WHOLE THING, WHICH I ASSUME MOST OF THE TIME, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD DO IN, IN A LOSS OF 50% OR GREATER. YEAH. IF IT WAS GREATER THAN 50% AND THEY DID DEMO THE WHOLE STRUCTURE, THEN IT WOULD, IT WOULD COME UP TO COMPLETE WHATEVER THE CURRENT CODE IS.OKAY. ANOTHER ONE IS EXTINGUISHER USE BY THE POOL. FREQUENTLY WE USE ABC EXTINGUISHERS FOR EVERYTHING. THAT'S WHERE WE PUT THEM AT. BUT THEY'VE SEEN A LOT OF ISSUES WITH INTERACTION WITH POOL CHEMICALS, WITH ABC EXTINGUISHERS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT TO WHERE THEY'RE NOT USING THE ABC EXTINGUISHERS NEXT TO POOLS AND YOUR PUBLIC AREAS LIKE YOUR POOLS AROUND NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS AND POOLS. LITHIUM ION LABORATORIES. THIS IS MORE OF A PROACTIVE CODE PLACEMENT IS COMING OUT WITH THE 27. WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT SOONER SINCE WE DO HAVE SOME INTEREST IN SOME OF THESE AREAS AND IT GOES INTO THE SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS, WHAT'S RELATED TO THE BATTERY MANUFACTURING AND WHAT PARTS OF THE MANUFACTURING PLACE ARE TAKING PLACE? STORAGE OF LITHIUM ION BATTERIES. THIS IS A PERMITS FOR LIMITED INDOOR STORAGE, INDIVIDUAL CONTAINERS, OUTDOOR STORAGE, FIRE DETECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR LITHIUM ION BATTERIES TO OUR RATED WALLS. AND THEN THE LESS REQUIREMENTS FOR LESS THAN 30% CHARGE. SO WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS IF THE BATTERIES ARE KEPT WITH THE LESS THAN 30% CHARGE, THEY WOULD HAVE A LESSER REQUIREMENT THAN IF THEY'RE COMPLETELY CHARGED. AND THE 30% COMES FROM THE DOT. THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN TRANSPORT A BATTERY AT, IS AT 30%. CAN'T BE ANY GREATER THAN THAT. MICRO MOBILITY CHARGING. WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF THIS HERE YET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD COME. AND WHAT THIS IS, IS FOR YOUR SCOOTERS AND BIKES OR E-BIKES THAT ARE AROUND THE COMPANIES WILL HAVE PEOPLE DO LIKE RECHARGING FOR THEM. AND SO THEY'LL BRING THEM INSIDE THEIR HOUSE AND RECHARGE THEM. BUT IT CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S HAZARDOUS TO THEM. JUST BECAUSE THESE BATTERIES ARE LIABLE AND SUSCEPTIBLE TO DAMAGE AND FIRE. AND SO WE WANT TO KEEP TRACK OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING AT. AND THEN FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT EMERGENCY SHUTOFFS AND DISCONNECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS FOR GREATER THAN 500 SQUARE FOOT AREAS IF THEY WERE INSIDE OF A BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT CONSIDERING. IT'S NOT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL GARAGES. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO NOW FOR GASOLINE AND DIESEL EMERGENCY SHUTOFFS, WHERE WE HAVE A 75 FOOT DISTANCE FROM THE AREA OF THEIR CHARGING. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU SAID ONLY IF IT'S ENCLOSED, NOT BECAUSE THE PICTURE SHOWS LIKE A TESLA CHARGING. YEAH. YOU YOU WOULDN'T SPRINKLER THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. PRE EXISTING ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. SO THIS IS A LOT OF THE AREAS AROUND HERE THAT HAVE ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS ARE USING LEAD ACID BATTERIES OR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BATTERY. AND THEY'RE WANTING TO BRING THEM UP TO A LITHIUM ION BATTERY. AND SO THIS REQUIREMENTS WOULD HAVE US LOOK AT THEIR SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR THE DETECTION SYSTEM IS ADEQUATE FOR COVERAGE OF THOSE BATTERIES. FIRE LANE SIGNS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS ONE. SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF ISSUES WITH. ONE, WE WANT TO MOVE TO THE STANDARD OF PAINTING THE CURBS INSTEAD OF DOING THE FIRE LANE SIGNS. IT'S EASIER MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY IN THE LONG TERM ONCE WE DO THAT. BUT IF WE DO STAY WITH THE FIRE LANE SIGNS, WE WANT TO MOVE THE DISTANCE FROM 250 TO 275. AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS SO THAT WE CAN LAND THEM BETWEEN 250 AND 275 ON A LOT LINE, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS THE SIGN GETS PUT IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN IT'S PUT IN, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND THEY CUT IN A CURB OR A DRIVEWAY. WELL, IF THAT SIGN'S RIGHT THERE, THEY JUST PICK THEM UP AND THROW THEM DOWN. AND THEN WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT THAT SIGN'S DOWN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THAT ISSUE AND PUT THEM ON A LOT LINE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE HEADACHE OF GOING BACK AND REDOING THE SIGNS. OKAY. CAN WE GRANDFATHER CHURCH STREET IN? NO COMMENT. ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD MAN. SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. DO ANY OF THESE CHANGES HAVE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL IMPACTS IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? THEY ALL JUST KIND OF RUN OF THE MILL AND WE JUST NEED TO DO IT. YEAH, THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE JUST RUN OF THE MILL. THEY WON'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. I KNOW ONE LIKE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ONE THAT'S GOING TO BRING SOME COST REDUCTION TO SOME OF THE INFILL LOTS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT DESIGNING AND PUTTING STRUCTURES IN. OKAY. THE OTHER ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES AND
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EVS AND POWER PANELS. SO IT IF I, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT, I NOTICE WERE EXEMPTED. BUT IF I HAVE THREE A THREE CAR GARAGE WITH THREE CARS IN IT THAT HAVE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, AND I HAVE ONE OF THOSE POWER PANELS ON THE WALL THAT IS, YOU KNOW, 20 KW. THAT'S A LOT OF ION BATTERIES. AND MY CONCERN IS ONE, IF ONE GOES ALL MOW GO AND THE OTHER ONE IS YOU TALKED ABOUT SPRINKLERS ON THE EVS, BUT DOESN'T SPRINKLERS AND ION BATTERIES NOT WORK. OH NO.SPRINKLERS WORK GREAT ON ION BATTERIES. THE MORE WATER YOU CAN PUT ON THEM, THE COOLER IT GETS. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN STOP THE THERMAL RUNAWAY FROM THE BATTERY. OKAY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH PUTTING OUT FIRES ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS YOU ADD THE WATER AND THEY JUST GO UP. BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. NO, SIR. OKAY, GOOD.
THANK YOU. AND AS FOR AS FOR YOUR SINGLE FAMILY GARAGE, IF EVEN IF YOU HAD THREE CARS IN THE GARAGE, REALLY THE STATE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO MANDATE ANY KIND OF SPECIFICATIONS INSIDE OF A RESIDENCE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT. SO WE COULD, WE COULD DIRECT PEOPLE INTO DOING THE PROPER THINGS OF PUTTING HEAT DETECTORS IN THEIR GARAGE. WE COULD DIRECT THEM INTO PUTTING SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN THEIR HOUSE, BUT WE CAN'T MANDATE THEM TO PUT THAT IN THERE. SO SHOULD WE HAVE A EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR EV'S PEOPLE WITH EVS AND POWER PANELS? SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THOSE. I MEAN, THOSE CHANGES, ESPECIALLY THE SINGLE STAIRS, SOMETHING THAT OTHER FOLKS ARE ADOPTING, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE COUNTRY, AROUND THE STATE. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING A LOOK AT ALL THAT STUFF AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS FOR US TO WORK BETTER WITH FOLKS AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND ALSO ON THE SINGLE STAIR, I KNOW WE SAID ON THERE SIX STORIES AND THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN TO KEEP IT AT. THAT'S WHAT THE STATE HAD RECOMMENDED. THE IBC IS RECOMMENDING FOUR. SO THAT'LL PROBABLY BE AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL MAKE LATER TO KEEP IT AT SIX. YEAH, I THINK THAT'LL PROBABLY BE FINE FOR GEORGETOWN. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. JAKE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US? NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I THINK GREG IS STEPPING IN FOR GLENN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GREG HOLT, ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL. AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED ADOPTION OF THE 2026 NFPA 70 OR THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE. EXCUSE ME. I WANT TO START WITH TDLR TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATION. THIS TDLR REGULATES ALL ELECTRICAL WORK IN TEXAS. PRETTY MUCH ALL ELECTRIC WORK EXCEPT FOR AGRICULTURE, MANUFACTURING, LOW VOLTAGE WORK, WHICH IS ALSO CHANGING. WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE LOW VOLTAGE IN HOMES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND THEY'RE STARTING TO INTRODUCE THIS INTO CODE. TDLR ISSUES LICENSES FOR APPRENTICES, JOURNEYMEN AND MASTER ELECTRICIAN. THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW SAFETY STANDARDS FOR THE LATEST NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE. AND THIS CYCLE IS EVERY THREE YEARS, THIS STATE ADOPTS THIS NEWER SAFETY STANDARDS AND THE CONTINUING EDUCATION CLASSES THAT ELECTRICIANS HAVE TO TAKE EVERY THREE YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT? GIVES THEM UPDATES ON THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS ON THIS LOCAL AUTHORITY DOES HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE THEIR OWN ORDINANCE AND SPECIFIC CODE AMENDMENTS, TIMELINES. WE WOULD LIKE TO STAY ON THE SAME TIMELINE AS THE ELECTRICIANS IN THE CITY FOR THE JUST TO BE ABLE TO INSPECT WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT CODE BOOK. ESSENTIALLY, THIS PAGE IS KIND OF GOING OVER THE WHOLE BROADER ASPECT OF THE 2026 NTC. THERE'S A LOT OF REORGANIZATION IN THE CODE. TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND, EASIER TO FIND REQUIREMENTS, MEDIUM VOLTAGE CAN. CONSOLIDATION IS ONE OF THE NEW ONES. AND THAT'S A REALLY HELPFUL ARTICLE FOR US. NEW TECHNOLOGIES. THIS IS THE BIG ONE FOR US ALSO IS ELECTRIC SELF-PROPELLED VEHICLE TRANSFER SYSTEMS WHICH IS GOING TO BE POPULAR. POPULAR THING WITH THE
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LITHIUM ION BATTERIES. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THOSE IS WE HAVE NO STANDARDS FOR THESE FOR THESE TECHNOLOGY. EXPANDED SAFETY PROTECTIONS ARC FLASH HAZARD MARKING AND GSI EYE PROTECTION FOR OUTDOOR HVAC EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED IN 2020, BUT THEY PUSHED IT BACK TO 2026. REQUIREMENT FOR HOMES FOR NUISANCE TRIPPING, AND THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING NOW. SO IT WILL COME OUT IN 2026. IT'S A REQUIREMENT SEPTEMBER 1ST. THIS IS WHY WE WANT TO STAY UP TO CODE THE NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING OUT EVERY YEAR. WE DON'T. IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH. EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND, WE SEE A NEW ARTICLE ABOUT NEW TECHNOLOGY, A NEW WAY TO A NEW WAY FOR SOLAR SYSTEMS. THERE'S PANELS NOW THAT HAVE NOT ONLY SOLAR, BUT THEY CAN CONTROL YOUR GENERATOR SYSTEMS. THEY CAN CONTROL THE POWER GOING INTO YOUR HOME. AND FLUCTUATE THAT POWER AND MEETING DEMAND.TRY TO KEEP YOUR BILLS LOWER SAFE. YOU'RE CHARGING THE EV CAR. IT CAN REDUCE THAT CHARGE IN THE EV CAR. IF IT'S HOT IN YOUR AC IS HAVING TO RUN MORE TO KEEP YOUR SOLAR AND TRY TO KEEP YOUR BILLS LOWER. THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED SYSTEM, THE ONE THAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE.
I'VE TRIED TO GO IN AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IS WHAT, BUT THE THE LARGE CONTROLLER ON THE LEFT IS BASICALLY A SYSTEM THAT WILL REGULATE YOUR POWER IN YOUR HOME FROM ALL THE SYSTEMS CONNECTED TO IT. IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED. AND GETTING BACK ON LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, THIS IS I ACTUALLY WROTE AN ARTICLE FOR THE BOAT BOARD ON LITHIUM ION BATTERIES. AND THE REASON I DID IS BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY PLAYING GOLF AND SAW HOUSE FIRE FOUND OUT IT WAS A SCOOTER. STARTED READING INTO IT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE HAVE.
LITHIUM ION BATTERIES ARE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE ALL THROUGHOUT OUR HOUSE, AND IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE WE'RE BECOMING MORE DEPENDENT ON ELECTRIC POWER. BUT WITH THAT BECOMES THE DAMAGE YOU GET FROM A KID RIDING A SCOOTER AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DAMAGING THAT BATTERY AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND PLUG IT BACK IN, LEAVE IT PLUGGED IN OVERNIGHT AND IT GETS THE THERMAL RUNAWAY. AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE. THE REASON I WROTE THE ARTICLE IS, IS THAT WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING OUT, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME WAY TO KNOW WHEN THAT BATTERY IS RUNNING AWAY FROM THE FROM THE SUPPLY SIDE AND KEEPING UP WITH THE NEWEST CODES WILL BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT. WHEN IT DOES COME OUT.
THE LITHIUM ION INCIDENTS BY YEAR, I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS A GLOBAL INFORMATION WAS SPORADIC IN THE US AND TEXAS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND THE INCONSISTENCIES. I DIDN'T WANT TO USE IT. I JUST FLEW THE OTHER DAY AND IT SEEMED LIKE THE RULES TOWARDS BATTERIES WERE DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TIME I FLEW, WHICH WAS JUST EARLIER THAT EARLIER IN THE YEAR, PROBABLY, OR WELL, I GUESS. I GUESS I SAW IT BOTH TIMES, BUT I GUESS LAST YEAR I DIDN'T. IT WOULD MENTION AND THEY WOULD ASK YOU AND YOU WENT THROUGH. BUT NOW THEY'RE LIKE CALLING IT OUT. YOU GOT TO HAVE IF YOU HAVE THIS RECHARGEABLE PACK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT OUT AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. I GUESS IT'S PROBABLY SIMILAR TO THE STUFF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE, JUST IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD. BUT I GUESS THE SAME CONCERNS WHEN YOU'RE FLYING IT.
MOST OF THE STUFF I FOUND ON LITHIUM ION IN THE US WAS FROM AIR TRAVEL. THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF ON AIR TRAVEL. PARDON ME. BUT NOT A LOT ON, YOU KNOW, HOUSEHOLD. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE TRACKING THE HOUSEHOLD FIRES AND WHAT THE CAUSES ARE AND WHY IT HAPPENED. BUT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW. BUT WHEN YOU ORDER A SCOOTER OR SOMETHING FROM TICK TOCK OR WHATEVER THEY ORDER FROM, THOSE AREN'T NECESSARILY UL LISTED. THEY'RE NOT STUDIED BY
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UNDERWRITERS LABORATORY OR INDEPENDENT LABORATORY TO TEST FOR SAFETY. SO NOT ONLY THAT, YOU CAN GET A CHARGER FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING AT A GAS STATION. AND BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY MADE FOR THAT. WHATEVER YOU'RE CHARGING, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE PROBLEM WITH THERMAL RUNAWAY. WHEN THAT BATTERY GETS HOT, THAT CHARGING SYSTEM SHOULD KNOW THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM AND NOT CHARGE THE BATTERY. THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. SO THE TECHNOLOGIES ARE COMING OUT JUST ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE POWER SUPPLY FROM SOLAR AND ALL THAT STUFF. I THINK EVENTUALLY THEY WILL HAVE SOME WAY OF FIGURING OUT, HEY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE FROM THE LOAD SIDE. WE'RE GOING TO JUST SHUT IT OFF JUST LIKE GFCI OR ARC FAULT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S GETTING SMARTER AS WE GO. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED THEIR QUALIFIED PERSONNEL, THIS IS ANOTHER ELECTRIC ISSUE. PERMANENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE POWER TRANSFER SYSTEMS. EQUIPMENT MUST BE INSTALLED BY A QUALIFIED PERSON. INCREASING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROFESSIONAL LICENSE INSTALLATION. THAT'S BIG. WE CAN'T CONTROL ALL OF IT. BUT YOU KNOW, THEM GOING OUT AND PUTTING IN A CHARGING SYSTEM FOR ANYTHING IS PRETTY, PRETTY WIDESPREAD. LOAD CALCULATIONS CHANGED. ELECTRIC SELF-PROPELLED VEHICLES. THEY KIND OF SEPARATED THAT FROM YOUR EV CARS TO COVER JUST YOUR GOLF CARTS, YOUR SCOOTERS, AIRCRAFT BOATS. ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF AIRCRAFT LIKE THAT. EMERGENCY DISCONNECTS. I KNOW FIRE TALKED ABOUT DISCONNECTS, BUT THAT'S ALSO CHANGING. IN THE 2026 NSC, THEY EXPANDED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMANENT CONNECTED EV, SC SYSTEMS AND WIRELESS POWER TRANSFER EQUIPMENT. YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE GFCI PROTECTION ON THOSE SYSTEMS. STATIONARY BATTERIES, WHICH FIRE WAS ALSO TALKING ABOUT CONTINUOUS LOAD SIZING. THEY INCREASED WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE GETTING A BREAKER FOR THAT SYSTEM, IT HAS TO BE AT 125% OF THE LOAD.BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE CHARGING, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU'RE CHARGING A CAR, IT'S CONTINUOUS LOAD FOR OVER THREE HOURS. SO THEY WANT TO HIRE PROTECTION ON THAT, THAT LOAD AND EMERGENCY DISCONNECTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN BUILDINGS. THIS REQUIRES THEM FOR CLEARLY IDENTIFIED EMERGENCY DISCONNECTS LOCATED BETWEEN 20 AND 100FT FROM THE EQUIPMENT.
SO IT'S ANOTHER IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR, FOR US AS WELL.
SAFETY AND CLARITY CHANGES JUST MADE SOME MADE IT CLEAR FOR THEY DID A LOT OF LABELING CHANGES IN THE CODE. WE HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE THAT HAS ZERO LABELING ON IT. OR THEY USED JUST THE STICKER LABELING THAT'S GOTTEN PAINTED OVER, OR IT'S FADED AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT AND CAN'T READ IT THIS WAY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT PERMANENTLY LABELED JUST FOR PROTECTION, ESPECIALLY FOR THE HIGH VOLTAGE EQUIPMENT AND EMERGENCY RESPONDER SAFETY REDEFINED RULES FOR OUTDOOR SERVICE DISCONNECTS AND ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE. AND WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE STOOD BY THIS. THEY JUST PUT IT IN CODE.
YOU GOT TO HAVE A DISCONNECT ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. MANDATORY ARC FLASH LABELS.
THIS COMMERCIAL, STRICTER EV CHARGING RULES BASICALLY WITH DISCONNECTS. REORGANIZE LOAD CALCULATIONS IS ANOTHER ARTICLE THEY BROUGHT OUT JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE DOING LOAD CALCULATION. AND THEN CONSOLIDATED MEDIUM VOLTAGE RULES, WHICH ARE JUST LOCATED IN 1 IN 1 CONFINED SPACE IN THE ARTICLE. INSTEAD ALL OVER THE BOOK. PARDON ME, WHY CHANGE? THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST REASON WHY WE WANT TO CHANGE MISALIGNED INSPECTION STANDARDS. THROUGH THE YEARS WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THIS. IF WE RELY ON AN OLDER CODE
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STANDARD AND WE HAVE AN ELECTRICIAN WIRING TO A NEW STANDARD, WE KIND OF MISS ON MANDATORY MANDATORY SAFETY FEATURES THAT WE CAN'T ENFORCE. ANOTHER THING IS FAILED INSPECTION AND CALLBACKS. WE'RE, IF WE'RE INSPECTING ON OLDER CODE, THEY'RE WIRING UNDER NEWER CODE AND WE FAIL THEM FOR THAT. I'VE ACTUALLY DONE IT MYSELF WAY BACK IN THE DAY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T WE DIDN'T HAVE THE NEW CODE ADOPTED. SO I COULD NOT INSPECT TO THAT CODE.AND THAT'S THE NEXT ONE. ENFORCEABILITY CHALLENGES FOR NEWER TECHNOLOGIES THAT CHANGE LITERALLY WEEKLY. WE NEED TO BE BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THESE NEWER CODES. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS. IN CONCLUSION, ADOPTING THE 2026 NFPA 70 OR NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE IS A PROACTIVE MOVE TO ALIGN WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY AND IMPROVE WORKER SAFETY AND AND SIMPLIFY COMPLEX ELECTRICAL INSTALLATIONS AS THE BENCHMARK FOR SAFETY ELECTRICAL DESIGN.
THIS EDITION INTRODUCED CRITICAL UPDATES THAT WILL HELP THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN STAY IN LINE WITH THE EVER CHANGING TECHNOLOGY AND ELECTRICAL SAFETY STANDARDS. AND THAT'S CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SIR. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. OH GOODNESS. NO NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH ALL THIS AND I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US? YES. SEE YOU ON THE 25TH. WE'LL BE BACK ON THE 25TH OF AUGUST FOR FIRST READING FOR THE POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION, THE ADOPTION OF THE 2026 NEC AND THE FIRE CHANGES ARE COMING BACK ON THE 25TH AS WELL. YES.
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PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO ROLL INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO COVER SECTIONS